For whatever reason this is one of the conspiracies I haven't done much independent research on. Thoughts appreciated. Mainly, how are the commercial airlines complicit if this is a real thing? How does something like this not have a whistleblower? I am seeing people like Attkinson and Naomi Wolf post about this on Twitter so I am leaning towards maybe its a thing.
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Once again, I point to the fact that this is an atmospheric phenomenon and the air may have regions of higher (persist) and lower humidity (fade).
You can detect all kinds of things in rain water and ground water. The problem is finding out where they are coming from. "Acid rain" was a big cause celebre, until it was shown to be entirely natural, having nothing to do with the rain per se.
Brennan? CIA? Weather modification? Where and when? What corporations? Any actual effort to seed clouds, for example, can occur only on limited scales due to the necessity of large operations. Where would it be a crime? Weather modification has been (rainmaking) has been attempted since the 1950s with spotty success. No crime in making rain. You are conflating occasional, limited exercises with a large-scale, all-enveloping, and effective program. I haven't seen any evidence of weather control and I live where there is plenty of weather. No control for the past 70 years. Seems like a useless investment, if it is real.
I have my doubts about the metal concentrations, but the sources are unidentified. Could it be that airplanes corrode/erode in service? More of them are flying now than before. Much more. "These scientists" sound more like people who have axes to grind, which is a poor basis for doing science, and one that will fail to objectively consider all angles. Any data on the net production of aerosols from volcanic events? More questions than answers.
I worked in compartmented activities, so, yes, I know all about compartmentalization. I also know that there is hardly anything less "secret" than the construction of an airplane, having been in the factories and on the program development review boards. I was also involved in the early work on the KC-46 tanker program. Can you say the same?
The problem is not that I haven't seen things. It is that you are "seeing things" that are not what you suppose they are. "Chemtrails" is one of them. You clutch your ignorance about atmospheric effects to your chest to protect you from the prosaic truth that they are only contrails after all, different because they are occurring at higher altitudes where there is greater persistence.
“I worked in compartmented activities, so, yes, I know all about compartmentalization. I also know that there is hardly anything less "secret" than the construction of an airplane, having been in the factories and on the program development review boards”
So the government hasn’t worked on or created any aircraft in secrecy? Got it
The government cares about your teeth and you need to drink fluoride, it’s safe and effective. got it
The metals are form corroding airplanes? Got it
They tell you they’re spraying you with chemical heavy metal mixtures to reflect the sun because of global warming but death ray says it’s just water. Got it
The grid patterns that only happen on certain days which turn the sky into hazy stringy clouds that look like they’re falling aren’t heavy metals they’re just water that doesn’t act like water. Got it.
Clear blue skies with no chemtrails on certain days when no planes are spraying and yet commercial flights are still flying over commercial flight paths with no trails is just an anomaly and it’s the atmospheric condition of the day and not the absence of these other planes flying these abnormal flights paths, got it.
Thanks for the gas light session.
The complaint is that airliners are emitting "chemtrails." This is bunk.
The fact that the Air Force has developed aircraft in secret is not pertinent to the above. Airliners are not built in secret, as I said. I have been where they are built and seen for myself. I have been privy to the management reviews of development programs, where there is no mention of "chemtrail" equipment. In this respect, I have the real-world experience you do not.
As for fluoride, I have heard the caution ever since I was old enough to read. But I have never seen an iota of evidence that the caution is substantiated. How can something be bad for you---but have no effect?
I have no idea where the metals are coming from, but I did offer two reasonable possibilities. The point is, you have no idea where the metals are coming from, just a huge dose of prejudice.
The "grid patterns" are just the result of crossing airplane trajectories, with no plan associated with them. High-altitude contrails slowly dissipate in shreds, or unwrap, because they are only clouds, often stirred up by admixture into the trailing air vortices made by the wings. As clouds, they are only water. You might pay more attention to how water actually acts, than to your imagination of how water is supposed to act.
The presence of contrails is determined by the relative humidity of the air they are in. It has always been so. When your car putters a steamy exhaust on a cold winter morning, it is the same thing.
You equating and comparing the heavy metals falling into the atmosphere to car exhaust, says a lot about you and your abilities to observe and do “science”.
Your lack of situational awareness of what took place with covid and the election regarding how a grand conspiracy is played out through private corporations, non profits, government workers, hired shills and operators is obvious.
You do understand the gravity of what it takes to take a planet of 7 billion people and reduce it down to 500 million right?
Do you understand what the great reset is all about?
Yes, I’m prejudiced as fuck towards globalist pedophiles trying to inject aerosolized heavy metals into the atmosphere because bill gates told them to because he wants to pretend to be mr burns and block out the sun.
Maybe it’ll click one day for you when Your looking up and observing the skies above you.
Maybe you’ll be in tn where they just banned it and realize holy shit planes can fly without exhaust that turns into a haze that fills the entire sky.
I’m rooting for you death ray. Sometimes when people tell you they’re spraying you with aluminum you should believe them and not try and pretend it’s just water.
I'm only pointing out that there are meteors entering the atmosphere and they end up as oxidized powders. I'm not comparing them to auto exhaust, and there is no reason to. Tetraethyl lead has been banned from gasoline for decades.
What lack of situational awareness? I knew from the very beginning, when hydroxychloroquine was being badmouthed, that the official story was bogus.
Here's your problem: You think in terms of the Package Deal. Either everyone is On Board with All of the conspiracy theories, or they are some kind of uber-sleeper agent. I am sorry that I live outside your mental box.
As a result, you believe that something is going on when all the physical evidence only illustrates a natural phenomenon. You live in the world of "Well, it could have---so it must have!" This is anti-scientific in the extreme.
All you jokers who think I need to "look up and observe" are pathetic. I have been observing contrails since I was about 5 years old in the mid-1950s. And have observed them constantly ever since. And know what they are, how they form, and what affects their evanescence or persistence. And know how airliners are built. Tennessee will see no changes at all. The contrails will continue unabated without hindrance---because there are no "chemtrails." We once had a state-by-state speed limit of 55 mph, and when the stupidity of that wore off, it just went into the history books.
If there were anything in the air where I live, it would be washed out by rain in short order. Our rainwater is the safest thing to drink or use for washing clothes. It's either that or harder ground water (minerals, much?).
THIS! deathraydesigner is nothing more than a low-iq LARP attempting to gaslight this community. I have called him out numerous times before for his bullshit pushing 'MSM is not telling lies' / 'its been debunked', 'I created a high tech laser so I know things..' narrative. Needs a permanent ban from here IMO
Sometimes the conversation with npc’s and shills can be useful to teach people.
Oppositional debate is fun when your emotionally detached from the outcome.
It’s clear he’s an instigator that’s why I’m poking him with a stick.
Hopefully other individuals reading can gain something from the conversation and interaction.
It is in fact what we encounter in the wild, so might as well hone your skills and solidify your arguments on paper, so to say. It’s only boring when it becomes cyclical.
He makes it too easy to see who he is with all the arrogance and pride oozing out of his pores though.