...Today, we now know what it was they wanted repeated. It was a metaphor from Judge Merchan in which he said “ suppose you wake up in the morning and it’s not raining, but the streets are wet and people are wearing raincoats and holding umbrellas. Under those circumstances you may conclude that it rained during the night.” ...
No, we cannot factually conclude that. Those people could be wearing rain coats and carrying umbrellas on a wet street because a fire hydrant busted, and was showering the street. What a shitty analogy.
But, if we want play with those kinds of leaps of faith, then we may also conclude that Michael Cohen is a sleazy lawyer, confirmed liar, and thief; Stormy Daniels is a sleazy whore who will do [literally] anything for money, and closely connected to another sleazy lawyer (Mike Avennatti- arrested for extortion; confirmed con-artist) and, that this is an election year.
Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that this case is a set-up, concocted by sleazy con-artist lawyers, and a con-artist whore, for the purpose of smearing a political candidate.
Hes using the right analogy for the wrong purpose. Here he is saying if you saw all that it would be reasonable to conclude it rained. Thats not how that analogy is supposed to be used. You are supposed to say staring with the assumption that it did not rain and you need proof that it did and you walk outside and see all that you could still have doubts as to whether it rained but they would not be reasonable ones.
You mentioned some conditions where it would be reasonable but the analogy assumes everything is wet…cars, streets, buidlings people…its cloudy theres raincoats, umbrellas.
Its basically a way of saying circumstantial evidence CAN be used to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt. And it has many many times.
A man walks into a bar and see's a beautiful Blonde sitting in the back corner in the dark ,he walks up and offers to buy her a drink and she accepts,they really hit it off all night and she says would you like to come to my place for a night cap and he reply's i would love to,she says meet me in the parking lot i have a black Peugeot,and he reply's I didn't think you were a Blonde.
"One can wake up from sleeping at a memorial day ceremony, and wake up with shit in his pants, and assume that Donald Trump took your pants off, shit in the pants, and put them back on you." - Pedo Colonel Sanders
No, we cannot factually conclude that. Those people could be wearing rain coats and carrying umbrellas on a wet street because a fire hydrant busted, and was showering the street. What a shitty analogy.
But, if we want play with those kinds of leaps of faith, then we may also conclude that Michael Cohen is a sleazy lawyer, confirmed liar, and thief; Stormy Daniels is a sleazy whore who will do [literally] anything for money, and closely connected to another sleazy lawyer (Mike Avennatti- arrested for extortion; confirmed con-artist) and, that this is an election year.
Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that this case is a set-up, concocted by sleazy con-artist lawyers, and a con-artist whore, for the purpose of smearing a political candidate.
Hes using the right analogy for the wrong purpose. Here he is saying if you saw all that it would be reasonable to conclude it rained. Thats not how that analogy is supposed to be used. You are supposed to say staring with the assumption that it did not rain and you need proof that it did and you walk outside and see all that you could still have doubts as to whether it rained but they would not be reasonable ones.
You mentioned some conditions where it would be reasonable but the analogy assumes everything is wet…cars, streets, buidlings people…its cloudy theres raincoats, umbrellas.
Its basically a way of saying circumstantial evidence CAN be used to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt. And it has many many times.
A man walks into a bar and see's a beautiful Blonde sitting in the back corner in the dark ,he walks up and offers to buy her a drink and she accepts,they really hit it off all night and she says would you like to come to my place for a night cap and he reply's i would love to,she says meet me in the parking lot i have a black Peugeot,and he reply's I didn't think you were a Blonde.
"One can wake up from sleeping at a memorial day ceremony, and wake up with shit in his pants, and assume that Donald Trump took your pants off, shit in the pants, and put them back on you." - Pedo Colonel Sanders
That is a standard instruction on what circumstanial is.
Same metaphor is used here.
https://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/jury-instructions/node/304