How come Ukraine suddenly is out of the news?

posted 204 days ago by Irishman4Trump6 204 days ago by Irishman4Trump6 +38 / -0

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– The_Watcher 4 points 204 days ago +4 / -0

I recognise that I am biased so please view sceptically:

2014, USA instigates regime change in Ukraine.
Crimea has always been a bit independent and objected to the change so wanted to leave Ukraine.
Donbas, which comprises Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, also wanted out.
Ukraine starts killing the ethnic Russian population in Donbas and cuts off water and electricity to Crimea.
14,000 people are killed in the resulting conflict.
Along the way, Ukraine signs agreements to stop the killing but does not honour them.
Feb 2022, Russia steps in to "help".

I jotted down some notes here: ukraine.jottings.website

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– Sadness 3 points 204 days ago +3 / -0

Further to 1)

The people in Donbas and Crimea were not allowed to vote in the 2014 coup 'election'. So further to 2) Crimean tatars had been deprived of their right to vote, so had their own emancipation vote and decided to rejoin Russia. Put it in context: What would Texas do, if the Federal goverment said one day that Texan votes do not count, or Texas is not allowed to participate in the presidential election? The cheating is bad enough.

Also, if a country starts 'punishing' whole states for voting wrongly, or depriving them of votes because they'll probably vote wrongly, then that government loses all rights to govern those states, IMO.

Not only that, the Western Ukrainians doubled down and started a wee genocide as in point 4). So, yeah, nah. Stop bleating about 1991 borders. It ain't gonna happen.

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