thanks for the link, that's helpful! and whenever I research, I immediately look for 17, seventeen, Jesus, christian, etc.

this is on first page, chapter 6...

"In 1551, the Order started to establish itself in France, which was seventeen years after its foundation in the chapel Saint-Denis at Montmartre."

(Montmartre is the 'mountain of martyrs'; there's a mountain theme in Q's movie.

also lots of 17's throughout document. so that means I'll have to read the entire link to be convinced;)