"very narrow parts with these guys" - truth.
"Hitler wasn't bad because..." This is something that comes with a lot of research. Adolf had a job to do, and the ONLY way it could be done was through authoritarian rule. Go back a few decades: 1871 dissolved the Republic (USA Inc); Spanish-American war instructed the US Army by showing antique rifles were ineffective, so the 03 Springfield repeater, prep for WWI; Titanic removed overt opposition to the fed, that opposition going covert; 1913, the fed, ADL, etc., which should give you a clue as to the motive force behind it (same as Germany WWI and post war).
WWI executed in ways no proper tactician would have. The only possible conclusion was to eliminate as many whites as possible before the end of the war, which was executed by the US (under tutelage of the previously mentioned group). WWI was also diversionary: the bolsheviks took over Russia, creating the proper 'govt' for also said group.
Adolf, while he was a name, was not a 'leader' until later. Yes, he was sponsored, and instructed as to actions. Among those was replacement of fake currency issued by Rothschild banks with money of worth, immediately removing 'the depression'. His next set of instruction was to build Germany's armed forces, and that couldn't have been without authoritarianism, simply because the Roths crew was everywhere in the Weimar Republic. Adolf was NOT some meathead wanting to conquer the world. All that's necessary to blow that bullshit up is to listen to (or watch subtitles) of his speeches. The function of Germany WWII was to stop the spread of the Bolshevik revolution into Europe. WWI removed all opposition to such a revolution: Austro-Hungarian Empire was broken up, France/Germany/Britain and the others were depleted.
Russia, under Stalin, was preparing the invasion of Europe in the later half of the 30s. Those who went covert knew of this, since that group had intel worldwide under guise of business. It was necessary for the one nation in Europe, Germany, to stop the invasion. Since Russia had a massive military, the covert ones knew it wouldn't be defeated, only depleted, and Operation Barbarossa was mounted a few months before Stalin was ready. That operation depleted Russia enough so Stalin couldn't invade.
The above also is stated by German Eastern Front soldiers of all ranks (post war), along with Adolf's speeches around the time of Stalingrad. "One day, the world will know what we have done here, not for Germany, but for all of Europe." Comes to mind.
A fantasy. Hitler took orders from no one. No biographer could prove it, and all the first-hand accounts are to the contrary. He built the NSDAP almost single-handedly. Anti-Semitism was common in Germany, along with a Darwinian attitude that the struggle for species survival was more important than niceties. The quest for lebensraum was forecast in "Mein Kampf." Hitler's rise to power was a hit-or-miss white-knuckle affair. Read the history and learn.
"Read the history and learn." Reading the history is a farce. There is no history book that is accurate.
You need to do 'unrelated' history and make connections; you also need to look at the declassified records from KGB, CIA, FBI etc. There is where you make connections and get the reality.
Hmm. So you have read all the history books (not just about this topic) and they are all inaccurate? But all the "unrelated" history books are MORE accurate---so long as you knit them together and fill in the blanks with your own imagination? Likewise, it is a bad idea to study the history of science and engineering in order to find out how to do anything?
Not trying to make a sale. What I'm trying to do is get people to dig more deeply to find out what the reality was/is. History books, since I was a child around 70 years ago have been changing, the same way engineering books change: yes, they do, constantly, and contain many errors. You see, I did engineering for decades, with a 5 year sojourn in teaching college; I knew many 'authors' of engineering books, with errors that remained uncorrected.
History has been modified to fit one specific group's intent, such that finding the truth isn't easy. You MUST resort to other sources, such as the declassified materials from the old USSR, the records from Germany and so forth. You MUST find actual pictures from the times, and compare them to what you read/see in the books. You must find statements from people who were there, on occasion some of the officers of the various armies of WWII. No history books used in 'schools', including universities, include any of that.
You will find differences between books of the 1950s, 60s, 70s on up to the "revisionist (or "modern") history that completely misrepresent happenings.
Until you have direct experience with the 'powers that be' revising history, you WILL have doubts. Personally, my military time and doings were revised, different dates, different occurrences, different places. If a person reads the "history" of 1867-68, for instance, and compares that to what I did during that time, you'd find me in 3 places at the same time, then 2 places at the same time, and what I did during Tet almost completely erased, including records of the helos I crewed.
But... you will believe what you want to believe, or what you were taught to believe.
"very narrow parts with these guys" - truth. "Hitler wasn't bad because..." This is something that comes with a lot of research. Adolf had a job to do, and the ONLY way it could be done was through authoritarian rule. Go back a few decades: 1871 dissolved the Republic (USA Inc); Spanish-American war instructed the US Army by showing antique rifles were ineffective, so the 03 Springfield repeater, prep for WWI; Titanic removed overt opposition to the fed, that opposition going covert; 1913, the fed, ADL, etc., which should give you a clue as to the motive force behind it (same as Germany WWI and post war).
WWI executed in ways no proper tactician would have. The only possible conclusion was to eliminate as many whites as possible before the end of the war, which was executed by the US (under tutelage of the previously mentioned group). WWI was also diversionary: the bolsheviks took over Russia, creating the proper 'govt' for also said group. Adolf, while he was a name, was not a 'leader' until later. Yes, he was sponsored, and instructed as to actions. Among those was replacement of fake currency issued by Rothschild banks with money of worth, immediately removing 'the depression'. His next set of instruction was to build Germany's armed forces, and that couldn't have been without authoritarianism, simply because the Roths crew was everywhere in the Weimar Republic. Adolf was NOT some meathead wanting to conquer the world. All that's necessary to blow that bullshit up is to listen to (or watch subtitles) of his speeches. The function of Germany WWII was to stop the spread of the Bolshevik revolution into Europe. WWI removed all opposition to such a revolution: Austro-Hungarian Empire was broken up, France/Germany/Britain and the others were depleted. Russia, under Stalin, was preparing the invasion of Europe in the later half of the 30s. Those who went covert knew of this, since that group had intel worldwide under guise of business. It was necessary for the one nation in Europe, Germany, to stop the invasion. Since Russia had a massive military, the covert ones knew it wouldn't be defeated, only depleted, and Operation Barbarossa was mounted a few months before Stalin was ready. That operation depleted Russia enough so Stalin couldn't invade. The above also is stated by German Eastern Front soldiers of all ranks (post war), along with Adolf's speeches around the time of Stalingrad. "One day, the world will know what we have done here, not for Germany, but for all of Europe." Comes to mind.
A fantasy. Hitler took orders from no one. No biographer could prove it, and all the first-hand accounts are to the contrary. He built the NSDAP almost single-handedly. Anti-Semitism was common in Germany, along with a Darwinian attitude that the struggle for species survival was more important than niceties. The quest for lebensraum was forecast in "Mein Kampf." Hitler's rise to power was a hit-or-miss white-knuckle affair. Read the history and learn.
"Read the history and learn." Reading the history is a farce. There is no history book that is accurate. You need to do 'unrelated' history and make connections; you also need to look at the declassified records from KGB, CIA, FBI etc. There is where you make connections and get the reality.
Hmm. So you have read all the history books (not just about this topic) and they are all inaccurate? But all the "unrelated" history books are MORE accurate---so long as you knit them together and fill in the blanks with your own imagination? Likewise, it is a bad idea to study the history of science and engineering in order to find out how to do anything?
I'm sorry. You don't know how to make a sale.
Not trying to make a sale. What I'm trying to do is get people to dig more deeply to find out what the reality was/is. History books, since I was a child around 70 years ago have been changing, the same way engineering books change: yes, they do, constantly, and contain many errors. You see, I did engineering for decades, with a 5 year sojourn in teaching college; I knew many 'authors' of engineering books, with errors that remained uncorrected.
History has been modified to fit one specific group's intent, such that finding the truth isn't easy. You MUST resort to other sources, such as the declassified materials from the old USSR, the records from Germany and so forth. You MUST find actual pictures from the times, and compare them to what you read/see in the books. You must find statements from people who were there, on occasion some of the officers of the various armies of WWII. No history books used in 'schools', including universities, include any of that. You will find differences between books of the 1950s, 60s, 70s on up to the "revisionist (or "modern") history that completely misrepresent happenings.
Until you have direct experience with the 'powers that be' revising history, you WILL have doubts. Personally, my military time and doings were revised, different dates, different occurrences, different places. If a person reads the "history" of 1867-68, for instance, and compares that to what I did during that time, you'd find me in 3 places at the same time, then 2 places at the same time, and what I did during Tet almost completely erased, including records of the helos I crewed.
But... you will believe what you want to believe, or what you were taught to believe.
Way to ignore everything else they said about Russia’s plan to invade Europe and Germany’s Operation Barbarossa.
Who is the "they" in "they said"? I have no idea what you are trying to say, and it does not refute what I said.
seadevil110 you fucking retard. If you don’t know what I’m referring to, that means you never even read his post.
Stupid mother fucker