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Russia signed military alliance with a massive military power, what did NATO do? Ally with pathetic Finland and Sweden lol (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by Chukna 1 year ago by Chukna +30 / -0
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– Gay4Jesus 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Russia is not a threat militarily unless you want to invade, which you never do. Nobody invades Russia and lives to tell about it. They are still using the same kind of logistics that they used back in world war II. To put it into perspective, we use pallets and they use boxes. It's really an issue of logistics and supply. That's essentially what it boils down to. They still have to load their missiles by hand. We bring our supplies in on pallets using forklifts and trucks, they have piles of boxes that some dude has to unload by hand. Russia cannot supply their troops adequately. I am not worried about a ground war with a country that can't even beat fucking Ukraine. They couldn't even beat Afghanistan in a land war. To put it into perspective, our soldiers have entire McDonald's restaurants in boxes that we can drop on our forward bases and set up while the Russians will be lucky to even get meat once a week. What won world war II for us was our ability to supply our troops better than anyone else in the entire world, and that ability still has not degraded to this day.

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– Pbman2 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The russians use the logistics that work wear they are going to fight. They are not shipping stuff halfway around the world, they are using it in their backyards, in the middle of some very tough conditions. Ask the germans about logistics in Russia...... I would bet they put a lot of thought into this issue.

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– SuckaFree 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You should worry. If you believe, even for a second, that Putin/Russia has the full weight of their military fighting in Ukraine, then you aren't paying attention. You're not gonna conquer a nation of roughly 40 million with only less than 40,000 troops and less airpower or sea power than what the USCG can bring to bear. Putin didn't go into Ukraine to fight a war. He went in to deter US/UK/NATO and to de-Nazify his backyard.

[their] plan isn't to win any war against any adversary and hasn't been the plan since WWII. The only reason why it's taught that we "won" WWII was to distract The People and cover up the fact that the West was purposely and purposefully infiltrated by Nazis.

We haven't "won" a war since the War of 1812. And even then I question whether we really "won," because the infiltration of our government by foreign powers and domestic agents occured immediately after that war ended in 1814.

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– Chukna [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

North Korea alone has a million men in active forces and can increase that many times larger while Finland and Sweden have a total of 50k soldiers. Finland and Sweden made NATO weaker, not stronger.

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– Pbman2 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

North Korea has enough conventional artillery within range to flatten Seoul in 12 hours. Most of it is underground and can't be stopped. If NATO attacks Russia, you may as well scratch Seoul off the map.

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– Zappbradigan 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That’s assuming 1. They actually have this mythical number of guns 2. Kim wouldn’t immediately flip on Russia if shit pops off if it means even slight personal gain for himself

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– Pbman2 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It's very well known that they do. I lived 10 years outside of Ft. SILL, and heard that many times, from arty guys that spent a lot of time on that boarder....

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– Zappbradigan 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Then they surely gave the number of batteries? No large city has ever been leveled by artillery even with thousands of batteries firing at once. See Stalingrad, Leningrad, Berlin, any other city,

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– Pbman2 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It was a long time ago, and doubt I asked. But it's not mobile artillery their supply chain is right behind them underground, not a thousand miles long, like the germans and russians had to deal with in ww2. It took them months to move up shells and munitions,and they never had enough.

Why do you think no one has fucked with north Korea in the last 75 years?

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– Zappbradigan 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Because there is very little to gain. They won’t win many wars by putting one million men on artillery to shell one city.

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– Gay4Jesus 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

North Korea has 1 million starving midgets who are fed on one cup of rice a day.

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– Zappbradigan 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You need navies and air forces to win wars, not just one million dudes with AK’s. How do you reason that adding more countries and manpower hurts NATO, that’s objectively 50k more troops than if they hadn’t added them.

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– Chukna [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Finland doubled the length of the border NATO has to defend now but didn't add any significant military capabilities. The USA has to send 10s of thousands troops to protect that border but the USA has limited resources and is falling short on hiring quotas so where are they getting those 10s of thousands troops? From other borders meaning it has to thin defenses elsewhere to protect that new border. That makes NATO weaker, not stronger.

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– Zappbradigan 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Where was it announced that the US is sending 10’s of thousands of troops to that border? I guess I don’t know what a significant military capability is to you. 50,000 modern day equipped troops isn’t insignificant.

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– Chukna [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

USA is building literally 15 new military bases in Finland now.

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– Zappbradigan 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I’ve read we now have access to 15 bases there, not building them.

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– Chukna [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Whose troops will be deployed there? The USA is paying their upkeep now.

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– Pbman2 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Russia doesn't need a navy unless they want to occupy California. They didn't have one in ww2. Now, their trading partners are on their own borders as well.

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– Zappbradigan 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Looking at lend lease it seems like we gave them an entire navy’s displacement worth of vessels. They certainly had many needs they could not meet on their own.

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– Pbman2 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That's true. Now they have a hundred times the production capacity of artillery shells than we do. Safety and environmental laws really slow down production. Now they can trade directly with China their supply routes are much safer than ours. We have a navy cause we need a navy, they dont.

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– BerlinWallCrosser 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Does Kim miss Trump?

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