Yeah those water irrigation system are, in some areas, terrible for the underground water supply. In a town near me there is an artesian well. Basically would probably never run dry. But the surrounding areas have all been tested and they are limited. These farmers put these irrigation systems in and literally dry the wells up underneath them. Which is no good. Esp for those who live there and are on water well systems. It’s probably why they had a shut off period. My ten cents.
This is a serious thing for sure, but it's serious for both sides. Underground reservoirs can refill with a few heavy rains. A whole crop cannot survive without water.
Both sides have a stand, but like I said, it's serious.
We had a new neighbor come in and he planted 500 acres of alfalfa and tapped the reservoirs and ran them dry in one season, it was insane. Then the farm closed and the guy vanished into thin air. It took months for things to refill and stabilize and all of that Alfalfa went to the middle east and not to US folks.
The farm he used all up for one season of Alfalfa will now take three seasons to recoup and be able to plant more local and needed crops.
Well fields around me have been farmed for a 100 years easy…before these irrigation systems they did good enough. It’s just a way for wealthy people to become more wealthy. Screw everyone else. So if that’s what all this fuss is about, then yeah there should be shutoff times for them, or banned outright altogether. But then the farmers would whine and complain to no end and drove the food industry up even more. Anything to make more money.
Farmers don’t answer to the same rules as everyone else. They got 15 yr olds driving semi’s loaded to the brim with grain running people over out around me. No charges. Driving through town 15-20 mph over the speed limit, same kids. Massive trucks. Cops won’t give them tickets. They can’t apparently, not during harvest time.
Im in construction. So I’m around these farmers almost daily sometimes. ALL of them are broke. Driving a 120k diesel dually. Living in the 4,000 sq ft homes, on their 50 acres of house property. Every wife, if they don’t own a restaurant, they are managers or of that level over various businesses. Every child and grandchild drives 60k trucks with their 30k side by side on a trailer. I’m sick of farmers whining. They don’t live in this world like the rest of us do.
Bit of a rant. But I’m currently hot and tired typing this. Watching farmers dressed to their best getting lunch, with zero sweat stains visible. Like always. I’m kinda done with the ole” “bless our farmers” crap. They are nice guys tho. Just wish people told the truth nowadays.
Protect your property rights and you too can live comfortably… we have ceded too much power to government and corporations. They need to learn who the boss is.
Protecting property rights is exactly why many people around my area are upset with well systems drying up because of all the farmer irrigation systems. Many of us would like to see them gone, permanently. If they were used reasonably, perhaps with litigation passed to protect underground water supply, people would be less irritated at them. Ultimately God takes care of those in need who look to Him for care. And the rains have taken care of the crops very well these last two years.
You understood that perfectly. That was exactly my point. Any farmer I’ve ever talk to is FLAT BROKE! Everything is to expensive. And then your eyes will start lying to you apparently….or their full of it. Which they are.
It’s all highly variable but just like oil wells underground processes push incredible amounts of water from deep places… probably more water underground than all the oceans combined
Actually yes, they detected a deep aquifer near the mantle years ago that would have more water than the entire Pacific.
Also I started to question the fossil origin of oil when I learned about high-temp high-pressure methods of synthesizing it in college and wondered "so why doesn't that happen down deep in the crust?" To me coal is the only true fossil fuel as we find plant fossils in it all the time and I've seen them myself but given how on places like Titan it rains liquid methane and there are heavier hydrocarbons on the surface that clearly didn't come from rotting biomatter it makes you wonder.
I had not considered this. I know that many farmers here locally have demanded that zero wells or water systems be allowed to tap into their sources. Had a buddy of mine explain the closest city was trying to allow new builders to tap those wells & farmers above were looking at losing all their water because gravity works. We are talking only a 20-30 foot drop in elevation over a few miles.
That said, I still wonder if the beuracrat is working with China/some foreign power somehow to make more farmland cheap to acquire here in the US.
Yeah those water irrigation system are, in some areas, terrible for the underground water supply. In a town near me there is an artesian well. Basically would probably never run dry. But the surrounding areas have all been tested and they are limited. These farmers put these irrigation systems in and literally dry the wells up underneath them. Which is no good. Esp for those who live there and are on water well systems. It’s probably why they had a shut off period. My ten cents.
Air conditioners are water generators, even in hot dry places.
This is a serious thing for sure, but it's serious for both sides. Underground reservoirs can refill with a few heavy rains. A whole crop cannot survive without water.
Both sides have a stand, but like I said, it's serious.
We had a new neighbor come in and he planted 500 acres of alfalfa and tapped the reservoirs and ran them dry in one season, it was insane. Then the farm closed and the guy vanished into thin air. It took months for things to refill and stabilize and all of that Alfalfa went to the middle east and not to US folks.
The farm he used all up for one season of Alfalfa will now take three seasons to recoup and be able to plant more local and needed crops.
Well fields around me have been farmed for a 100 years easy…before these irrigation systems they did good enough. It’s just a way for wealthy people to become more wealthy. Screw everyone else. So if that’s what all this fuss is about, then yeah there should be shutoff times for them, or banned outright altogether. But then the farmers would whine and complain to no end and drove the food industry up even more. Anything to make more money. Farmers don’t answer to the same rules as everyone else. They got 15 yr olds driving semi’s loaded to the brim with grain running people over out around me. No charges. Driving through town 15-20 mph over the speed limit, same kids. Massive trucks. Cops won’t give them tickets. They can’t apparently, not during harvest time. Im in construction. So I’m around these farmers almost daily sometimes. ALL of them are broke. Driving a 120k diesel dually. Living in the 4,000 sq ft homes, on their 50 acres of house property. Every wife, if they don’t own a restaurant, they are managers or of that level over various businesses. Every child and grandchild drives 60k trucks with their 30k side by side on a trailer. I’m sick of farmers whining. They don’t live in this world like the rest of us do.
Bit of a rant. But I’m currently hot and tired typing this. Watching farmers dressed to their best getting lunch, with zero sweat stains visible. Like always. I’m kinda done with the ole” “bless our farmers” crap. They are nice guys tho. Just wish people told the truth nowadays.
Protect your property rights and you too can live comfortably… we have ceded too much power to government and corporations. They need to learn who the boss is.
Protecting property rights is exactly why many people around my area are upset with well systems drying up because of all the farmer irrigation systems. Many of us would like to see them gone, permanently. If they were used reasonably, perhaps with litigation passed to protect underground water supply, people would be less irritated at them. Ultimately God takes care of those in need who look to Him for care. And the rains have taken care of the crops very well these last two years.
If they are all broke, how are the kids driving the expensive trucks?
You understood that perfectly. That was exactly my point. Any farmer I’ve ever talk to is FLAT BROKE! Everything is to expensive. And then your eyes will start lying to you apparently….or their full of it. Which they are.
wow
It’s all highly variable but just like oil wells underground processes push incredible amounts of water from deep places… probably more water underground than all the oceans combined
Actually yes, they detected a deep aquifer near the mantle years ago that would have more water than the entire Pacific.
Also I started to question the fossil origin of oil when I learned about high-temp high-pressure methods of synthesizing it in college and wondered "so why doesn't that happen down deep in the crust?" To me coal is the only true fossil fuel as we find plant fossils in it all the time and I've seen them myself but given how on places like Titan it rains liquid methane and there are heavier hydrocarbons on the surface that clearly didn't come from rotting biomatter it makes you wonder.
I had not considered this. I know that many farmers here locally have demanded that zero wells or water systems be allowed to tap into their sources. Had a buddy of mine explain the closest city was trying to allow new builders to tap those wells & farmers above were looking at losing all their water because gravity works. We are talking only a 20-30 foot drop in elevation over a few miles.
That said, I still wonder if the beuracrat is working with China/some foreign power somehow to make more farmland cheap to acquire here in the US.