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Can someone explain the talk of this "Chevron" stuff for me? I don't live in America and I missed this one. This doesn't relate to the American gas station company, right? What's going on?
The Chevron stuff - It means that Agencies can't make up their own laws. For example, they would fine people for collecting water on their land, fishing in rivers without license, if you have a pond on your land they'd claim it as natural waterway and fine you for using the water, fishing boats need to have inspector on board, bullshit like that operating like mafia. Another good example is needing drivers license and insurance to drive.
Thanks. Libertarians think that it shouldn't be necessary to have a license or insurance to drive, but I question that wisdom.
Does this protect citizens who raise their own chickens and their own vegetable gardens and such?
Idk...imo to travel is a right. If you drive commercial maybe need a license. Back in the day when you ride a horse you don't need a license.. just saying.
In Jersey, you have all these rules and laws for giving out your gardening harvest to your neighbors, raising chickens, needing a permit before you can remodel your own damn property, and they tax property owners everytime it rains. Imagine that. All these stuff will come up they'll go to court, you'll see.
A horse can make judgement calls whereas a car cannot. But, I see what you are saying. Yes, it does get out of hand. A child can't just make a lemonade stand without some government agent shutting the kid down for sellng lemonade without a permit, which would cost far more than any revenue the kid would make by selling the drink. It has gotten out of hand.
Chevron the company sued some regulatory agency, some 40 years ago regarding some regulations that affected the company.
The ultimate outcome was that the SCOTUS ruled that if Congress makes a certain law and even if the law is ambiguous, the regulatory agencies can interpret the law however they want, with no oversight from the courts, because - "Trust the experts".
The recent ruling that overturned Chevron has basically made it possible to finally bring oversight on regulatory bodies by questioning their "expertise" in courts.
If you search "Chevron" on here there are several good "gist of it" posts.