interesting point about the SC immunity decision. any lawfags wanna address the second half of this?
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everything but the last paragraph was written by me. If anyone is guilty of word salad here, it is me due to my lack of legal knowledge. Which is why I am bringing the discussion here.
Even then, it is not word salad. At worst it is lacking context.
The crux of the issue is this:
(from the SC decision:)
“In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives.”
The lib was arguing that this makes any criminal prosecution impossible for lack of mens rea. However, I think I now see how he's being dumb.
But further input (from those with actual legal knowledge) is welcome.
..and seriously. everybody REALLY needs to stop abusing the term word salad. It is not a definition for things you don't understand, or for things lacking context. Libs are stupid, but they can form sentences. even the vast majority of what Biden says doesn't count as word salad. Even he tends to trail off and shut up when he stops making sense. (granted that could be because he's an actor, or following a script.. but my point stands.)
Making false accusations invites the same to be made against us.
The last paragraph was the word salad I was referring to. Not sure what the problem with that term is. It simply means a bunch of syntactically correct words that have no meaning.
As far as I know, nothing in the SC decision how to determine whether something is a official act or not. It leaves it open, and the lower courts are still able to hear arguments as to whether something is official or not.
There is no mention that motivation may not be considered at all.
it does make sense. actus reus and mens rea both have meaning, and are both requirements for convicting someone of a crime.
here was the response i finally managed to give, starting with the part of the decision he was referring to:
“In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives.”
Does that clear things up for you? The decision does not say motive cannot be considered, except in considering whether or not an act counts as official. that does not preclude or inhibit any criminal prosecution against the president.
It is in fact another preventative measure against abuse of presidential power. It prevents any 'the ends justify the means' arguments in defense of the president against criminal prosecution.
weeeoooo i'm quite proud of myself for coming up with the correct response. i'm a bit out on a limb in my last paragraph, but i think i'm right there too.
I AM SO PLEASED TO HAVE WORKED OUT THE ANSWER TO THIS. COME AT ME, LIBTARDS
Is this taken from the SCOTUS decision?
Yas