Don't try to outsmart the Bible, fren. Only try to understand it.
How can one even respond to that? Apparently you aren't willing to have a conversation in earnest about this. You already "know the truth."
I spent 30 years of my life studying the Bible. Then I spent a couple years learning where it actually came from (the people who currently own the whole world). I looked into how Christianity (today's version) really came to be. Your ideas of what Jesus thought do not take into account other sources of his words (what are inappropriately called "gnostic gospels" which is a phrase exactly the same as "conspiracy theorist" designed to ensure that people do not look too closely at certain things).
Owning a copy of those "gnostic gospels" was punishable by death enforced by the same exact people who wrote the Bible version you believe contains "the truth." That is why so few of those works exist today.
the letters Y H V H are representative of four levels of reality that form the body of God
This is exactly the type of claptrap nonsense that sells so well to those who think they've tapped into "the Divine" when what they are actually doing is succumbing to Jewish propaganda.
You didn't even address what I said, or answer the question I posed.
How can the Source of All Things possibly be separate from That Which Is (all of us, the Universe, the multiverse maybe, the realm of Mind or Spiritual Realm maybe, etc.). It's the Source. Everything is derivative from Source. That's what the phrase "Source of All Things" means.
I think there is a common confusion between what is meant by "the Source," and other entities which are derivative from Source. For example, I think the creator of this realm (what we call "the universe," or maybe just this planet) is likely a real individual entity (what you call "God"). It could be that the Creator was an alien (as we understand the term, i.e. from another planet in this universe) and the act of "Creation" was more appropriately the act of Terraforming (a Martian Elon Musk variant created us). Or it could be that "God" (the individual) is an extradimensional being of some sort akin to the common trope of "the first children of Source" like El and Asherah e.g. In such a Scenario the act of Creation would be more profound than terraforming, but still not an intentional act of Source, but an intentional act of a derivative of Source. It could be that the act of Creation came from Source itself, but then, all of "Creation" would be just the Creation of Source Itself in a new (whimsical?) form.
In all but the last scenario, any entity that did the Creation is itself derivative from Source. Nothing can be truly separate from Source. It doesn't make any sense to even make the statement that a thing can be. So if what you call "God" is an individual, in some meaningfully separate way, then it itself is derivative from Source (a "Child of God"), just like you and me.
So you started as a Christian? That is your disadvantage. When people 'learn' a religion because they are born into it, they often have no understanding of it. then upon looking beyond it, they feel like the wool has been lifted from their eyes.
I started my spiritual journey by looking into the origins of the Bible. I was an atheist at the time, trying to prove that it was corrupt. I did this for more than 'a couple years.' I have not taken anything for granted, and I am well familiar with the material you would try to sell me on. I even espoused it for a while.
Unless you change your attitude, you will never experience God as a person. you will remain reprobate. I thank that same God for giving me a uniquely enlightening journey, clear understanding of these things, and unshakeable faith.
That is your mistake. There is no disadvantage here. I do not close my mind off to a thing just because it once influenced me. My mind is perpetually open to all possibilities. Those three decades of study gave me great insight. No disadvantage to be found.
I did this for more than 'a couple years.'
Don't start swinging dicks. I did it for over three decades. I did it when I was a Christian (up to about 15 years old) and for another decade and a half afterwards. I revisited it recently and dug deeper than I had ever gone before.
You are still not actually addressing anything I have said, or answering a single question I posed. All you are doing is putting forth reasons that you think I might be making mistakes in my thinking, without actually addressing any of it.
I am well familiar with the material you would try to sell me on. I even espoused it for a while.
Yet you seem to be incapable of actually addressing it.
Unless you change your attitude, you will never experience God as a person. you will remain reprobate.
I have never felt closer to Source than I do now. Perhaps you are in error.
I am glad that at the moment of our conversation, you feel very connected to God. I'm ignoring your points because it's 1AM and I'm trying to sleep. I'm not in a rush to convince you that 2+2=4, either. but i'll do my best to walk you through it at some point. goodnight fren
How can one even respond to that? Apparently you aren't willing to have a conversation in earnest about this. You already "know the truth."
I spent 30 years of my life studying the Bible. Then I spent a couple years learning where it actually came from (the people who currently own the whole world). I looked into how Christianity (today's version) really came to be. Your ideas of what Jesus thought do not take into account other sources of his words (what are inappropriately called "gnostic gospels" which is a phrase exactly the same as "conspiracy theorist" designed to ensure that people do not look too closely at certain things).
Owning a copy of those "gnostic gospels" was punishable by death enforced by the same exact people who wrote the Bible version you believe contains "the truth." That is why so few of those works exist today.
This is exactly the type of claptrap nonsense that sells so well to those who think they've tapped into "the Divine" when what they are actually doing is succumbing to Jewish propaganda.
You didn't even address what I said, or answer the question I posed.
How can the Source of All Things possibly be separate from That Which Is (all of us, the Universe, the multiverse maybe, the realm of Mind or Spiritual Realm maybe, etc.). It's the Source. Everything is derivative from Source. That's what the phrase "Source of All Things" means.
I think there is a common confusion between what is meant by "the Source," and other entities which are derivative from Source. For example, I think the creator of this realm (what we call "the universe," or maybe just this planet) is likely a real individual entity (what you call "God"). It could be that the Creator was an alien (as we understand the term, i.e. from another planet in this universe) and the act of "Creation" was more appropriately the act of Terraforming (a Martian Elon Musk variant created us). Or it could be that "God" (the individual) is an extradimensional being of some sort akin to the common trope of "the first children of Source" like El and Asherah e.g. In such a Scenario the act of Creation would be more profound than terraforming, but still not an intentional act of Source, but an intentional act of a derivative of Source. It could be that the act of Creation came from Source itself, but then, all of "Creation" would be just the Creation of Source Itself in a new (whimsical?) form.
In all but the last scenario, any entity that did the Creation is itself derivative from Source. Nothing can be truly separate from Source. It doesn't make any sense to even make the statement that a thing can be. So if what you call "God" is an individual, in some meaningfully separate way, then it itself is derivative from Source (a "Child of God"), just like you and me.
So you started as a Christian? That is your disadvantage. When people 'learn' a religion because they are born into it, they often have no understanding of it. then upon looking beyond it, they feel like the wool has been lifted from their eyes.
I started my spiritual journey by looking into the origins of the Bible. I was an atheist at the time, trying to prove that it was corrupt. I did this for more than 'a couple years.' I have not taken anything for granted, and I am well familiar with the material you would try to sell me on. I even espoused it for a while.
Unless you change your attitude, you will never experience God as a person. you will remain reprobate. I thank that same God for giving me a uniquely enlightening journey, clear understanding of these things, and unshakeable faith.
That is your mistake. There is no disadvantage here. I do not close my mind off to a thing just because it once influenced me. My mind is perpetually open to all possibilities. Those three decades of study gave me great insight. No disadvantage to be found.
Don't start swinging dicks. I did it for over three decades. I did it when I was a Christian (up to about 15 years old) and for another decade and a half afterwards. I revisited it recently and dug deeper than I had ever gone before.
You are still not actually addressing anything I have said, or answering a single question I posed. All you are doing is putting forth reasons that you think I might be making mistakes in my thinking, without actually addressing any of it.
Yet you seem to be incapable of actually addressing it.
I have never felt closer to Source than I do now. Perhaps you are in error.
I am glad that at the moment of our conversation, you feel very connected to God. I'm ignoring your points because it's 1AM and I'm trying to sleep. I'm not in a rush to convince you that 2+2=4, either. but i'll do my best to walk you through it at some point. goodnight fren