“Before he had his gun out “..he wasn’t carrying a pistol, how does a person hide an AR under a t-shirt and jeans. They don’t. People have said they saw him with rifle slung over his shoulder. He wasn’t hiding anything. And I highly doubt the SS, who searched him earlier, found his shooter scope, and then even reported seeing him looking directly at the counter snipers with said scope. This guy was on radar when he was in line for the rally. Probably hours before Trump even showed up. And they lose him? Total incompetence. Or planned. It’s one or the other. But this guy got a hard pass to continue with his mission, imo.
And also why would a cop, go Rambo, and try to take out a shooter without radioing SS who was literally a rooftop away. Or radio anyone other than, “I got this!” So now we now it was not any local cops. At best it was state police. Or, people dressed as police.
I’m not disagreeing with what you saying I’m just adding to.
Before he had his gun out “..he wasn’t carrying a pistol, how does a person hide an AR under a t-shirt and jeans.
But we have two pictures of him in just a t-shirt and jeans with no gun. So where was it?.
My speculation is he had a bag stashed someplace. But this is one of the big questions
People have said they saw him with rifle slung over his shoulder.
I haven't seen this. Sauce.
The first I'm aware of is the guy who talked to the BBC said he saw him crawling towards the roof with a gun. So I'm wondering is that the first report of a gun.
This guy was on radar when he was in line for the rally.
I've been thinking this of two phases. One is on the radar or the suspicious phase. And two when his gun out which is active threat. I don't know if we know when that changed. I don't know when the first report of him having his gun out was. There's video that came out of him way in the background of the video looking up at the buildings but he didn't have a gun. Didn't even have a bag with him at that time.
I’m not disagreeing with what you saying I’m just adding to.
Cheers.
I'm trying to nail down a timeline. I think people are too often affected by a hindsight as 20/20 syndrome. And are acting like he was walking around with his gun out for an hour. He wasn't.
This article has some more info. They saw him a couple of times. No backpack. Later with a backpack. Was seen with range finder minutes before shooting. I don't know that SS searched him. I remember hearing he didn't got through the metal detector, and that alerted folks.
saw him looking through a rangefinder minutes before he tried to assassinate the former president
The local cop didn't go Rambo, he was responding to a call for backup
The local sniper team called for backup — alerting the command post that the gunman had a backpack and was walking toward the back of the building.
By the time other local officers responded to the backup request, the gunman had scaled the building, positioning himself above and behind the local snipers inside the building, according to the officer.
I’m looking for the link posted yesterday about the spotter scope being found on him(security checkpoint) while he was in line trying to get into the rally. They allowed him in with it. I myself have never been to a Trump rally, but I wonder, if your checked through at the “gate” are you allowed to go back to your car? Like at a football stadium, even for a band competition, you are allowed to go back to your car, but you have to go through security to get back in at any point. This guy wasn’t walking around all day with a rifle, so I assume his car. Now his car had to be parked a ways away, I figure. With the rest of the crowd. SS should have….”should have” had other areas blocked off like they always do. They don’t allow access points from multiple positions. That’s just typical security. So this guy was either handed a rifle, within feet of the building, or he walked across a football field with a “stiff arm” covering a rifle. Both involved accomplices, or incompetence. And both unacceptable. Especially at a 150yrds away. That’s visible to the human eye.
I do not think he was ever allowed in. And the rangefinder was knownabout after he was acting suspicious.
Recent timeline
5:10 p.m. Crooks was first identified as a person of interest.
5:30 Crooks was spotted with a rangefinder
5:52 Crooks was spotted on the roof by Secret Service
So he was on the roof before Trump hit the stage at 6:02. WTH?
Yea the timeline has been very weird. First guy I heard from was the guy “with the hair hat”. He said the shooter got up there and was firing within 2 mins. And Trump just started speaking. Next person I hear from, was a group of people said he had been speaking for 10-15 mins, before they saw the shooter getting into position. That’s a good 10 min gap. A huge amount of time. Meanwhile SS is clueless?
Also, here is a link to, “those people”. Shhh don’t tell anyone I linked them, but they have the picture I want, just I don’t recommend reading anything much after. On the headline the video still under shows the gunman carrying his AR openly walking towards the building. You can see him holding around the lower barrel area, while the stock is higher up by his underarm. Clearly visible. Not alingniver the shoulder has I’ve heard but carrying it openly no doubt. What he just walk from his car all the way there? Signs point to yes imo.
Edit. Watching the video it’s harder for me to see. But the still looks like the rifle. But when he walks back it looks like it’s gone. Did he stash it?
“Before he had his gun out “..he wasn’t carrying a pistol, how does a person hide an AR under a t-shirt and jeans. They don’t. People have said they saw him with rifle slung over his shoulder. He wasn’t hiding anything. And I highly doubt the SS, who searched him earlier, found his shooter scope, and then even reported seeing him looking directly at the counter snipers with said scope. This guy was on radar when he was in line for the rally. Probably hours before Trump even showed up. And they lose him? Total incompetence. Or planned. It’s one or the other. But this guy got a hard pass to continue with his mission, imo.
And also why would a cop, go Rambo, and try to take out a shooter without radioing SS who was literally a rooftop away. Or radio anyone other than, “I got this!” So now we now it was not any local cops. At best it was state police. Or, people dressed as police.
I’m not disagreeing with what you saying I’m just adding to.
But we have two pictures of him in just a t-shirt and jeans with no gun. So where was it?.
My speculation is he had a bag stashed someplace. But this is one of the big questions
I haven't seen this. Sauce. The first I'm aware of is the guy who talked to the BBC said he saw him crawling towards the roof with a gun. So I'm wondering is that the first report of a gun.
I've been thinking this of two phases. One is on the radar or the suspicious phase. And two when his gun out which is active threat. I don't know if we know when that changed. I don't know when the first report of him having his gun out was. There's video that came out of him way in the background of the video looking up at the buildings but he didn't have a gun. Didn't even have a bag with him at that time.
Cheers.
I'm trying to nail down a timeline. I think people are too often affected by a hindsight as 20/20 syndrome. And are acting like he was walking around with his gun out for an hour. He wasn't.
This article has some more info. They saw him a couple of times. No backpack. Later with a backpack. Was seen with range finder minutes before shooting. I don't know that SS searched him. I remember hearing he didn't got through the metal detector, and that alerted folks.
The local cop didn't go Rambo, he was responding to a call for backup
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sniper-picture-trump-rally-shooter-rangefinder-assassination-attempt/
I’m looking for the link posted yesterday about the spotter scope being found on him(security checkpoint) while he was in line trying to get into the rally. They allowed him in with it. I myself have never been to a Trump rally, but I wonder, if your checked through at the “gate” are you allowed to go back to your car? Like at a football stadium, even for a band competition, you are allowed to go back to your car, but you have to go through security to get back in at any point. This guy wasn’t walking around all day with a rifle, so I assume his car. Now his car had to be parked a ways away, I figure. With the rest of the crowd. SS should have….”should have” had other areas blocked off like they always do. They don’t allow access points from multiple positions. That’s just typical security. So this guy was either handed a rifle, within feet of the building, or he walked across a football field with a “stiff arm” covering a rifle. Both involved accomplices, or incompetence. And both unacceptable. Especially at a 150yrds away. That’s visible to the human eye.
I do not think he was ever allowed in. And the rangefinder was knownabout after he was acting suspicious.
Recent timeline
So he was on the roof before Trump hit the stage at 6:02. WTH?
https://abc7ny.com/post/trump-assassination-attempt-fbi-examines-thomas-matthew-crooks/15064141/
Yea the timeline has been very weird. First guy I heard from was the guy “with the hair hat”. He said the shooter got up there and was firing within 2 mins. And Trump just started speaking. Next person I hear from, was a group of people said he had been speaking for 10-15 mins, before they saw the shooter getting into position. That’s a good 10 min gap. A huge amount of time. Meanwhile SS is clueless?
Also, here is a link to, “those people”. Shhh don’t tell anyone I linked them, but they have the picture I want, just I don’t recommend reading anything much after. On the headline the video still under shows the gunman carrying his AR openly walking towards the building. You can see him holding around the lower barrel area, while the stock is higher up by his underarm. Clearly visible. Not alingniver the shoulder has I’ve heard but carrying it openly no doubt. What he just walk from his car all the way there? Signs point to yes imo.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/17/politics/thomas-matthew-crooks-trump-shooter
Edit. Watching the video it’s harder for me to see. But the still looks like the rifle. But when he walks back it looks like it’s gone. Did he stash it?