So take a look at both DJT and GME. Both show very odd spikes. DJT's at exactly 6:45 ET up about 5% then right back to where it started. GME at 7:40 Up 4% then back where it started .
Then I decided to look at TSLA. It also had a spike except it was down 6% occurring at 5:10 then pops right back to 239 price it was before the spike.
Looked at some other stocks, XOM also showed a spike but in a trapezoid shape. PLG another stock I own, also showed a similar pattern. I could go on and on. Anyone have any explanation for these after hours spikes up and down?
Wait, there's market wide manipulation going on? When did this happen?!?
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Welcome to 2021! :)
I don't know about those specific spikes, but ultimately everything is controlled by algorithms, specifically the Aladdin algo by Blackrock. I mean there's other shit going on, and there's reasons the computer makes those decisions, and they have been talked about to death on boards like r/Superstonk, but ultimately Aladdin is the likely culprit.
Everything is done in blocks across the board because it's all controlled by a single AI, which is controlled by the single corporation that exists in the world.
The market isn't so much a "market" as a Vegas strip, where all the Casino's are really the same Casino, all the games are 100% rigged, and the House Always Wins.
Exactly. That's the conclusion I'm coming too. And yet if you don't invest the value of your $ is eroded due to inflation; its a giant catch 22 ponzi scheme.
I also think if MOASS was to occur then who is to say the bad guys will play by the rules. If they have the ability to manipulate than why wouldn't they not do so to avoid their ruin. Will a caged bear not fight back? This is my concern right now
MOASS may or may not happen. In order for it to happen there must be something that shuts down their avenues of naked short selling. What causes that could be several things, but one or more of those things must happen first. The only way any of them can happen is if someone with the authority to make it happen wants it to happen.
In other words, what sets it off would have to be either a BH operation, designed to take down the entire economy or a WH operation, designed to take down the entire economy. Once it happens (I think a huge crash is inevitable), there will be a legal path to a "payout" for the stock hodlers. That legal path has lots of exit strategies. Whether or not those happen I think depends on who's in charge when the SHTF.
Gotcha. Makes sense, thank you for the clear analysis.
It's stranger than that supperstonk is reporting GME trading on Saturday.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1e8svax/9_million_traded_on_a_saturday/
I saw that too....just a glitch nothing to see here...Which is why I believe the bad actors will do everything they can to prevent MOASS. I know on paper what should happen but does that mean it will? Surely there are checks and balances to make sure things unfold as they should but is anything full proof? Particularly when their entire system hinges on it.
Heard that it’s related to the cyber issues last week etc. Still strange tho the NYSE is closed.
Yes...cyber issue. Or behind the scenes actors manipulating. Same thing as voting. Lets flip the switch and make changes. What happens in the dark... I do not trust the very system that is built upon greed to decide to be moral play by the rules and let things unfold as they should. They will clearly attempt market Manipulation because their very system will be destroyed should MOASS occur.
What if the stock market crashed and they didn’t let people know about it?
Precisely my concern. How much manipulation really occurs? What checks and balances are in place. Why would they allow the market to crash if it would destroy their system; of course they would like to keep things afloat no?
My theory is that there are two prices because Deep State has placed one simulation on top of the other. Periodically a trade leaks through at the higher (real price) or lower (suppressed price) depending on which track they allow the stock to run on that day. This may be why you see sudden, massive moves up or down in premarket or postmarket as they “switch tracks” from one to the other.
Reason for doing this would be to hide a massive short squeeze where “real” price is $717 (sim#1) but they want to show it as $34 (sim#2) to control, index, option, and derivative prices artificially. Presumably, whitehats have taken at least partial control of “Simulation #1” that was likely put in place sometime after 2008 election (2009?). Very likely no real prices since then.
I believe you could be right. String everyone along and hide the real prices from the public. After all if MOASS does occur their system is ruined. So why wouldn't they try every possible angle to protect the system? They've already cheated before, there is no moral compass to keep them from doing wrong.
So many trades just don't make sense; if someone has the ability to manipulate than why wouldn't they do it? Fear of getting caught? ok, but clearly everyone in on the game. One goes down they all do. Same idea as blackmail being used for black hats. I do not trust the market one bit yet all of us are forced to invest or have our $ eroded due to inflation.