Catholics didn't abduct Peter, Christ chose him. Matthew 16:18. From then until today there has been an unbroken line of disciples who have filled the seat of Peter otherwise known as Popes. Flawed, yes? Sinless, no? Vigano, is rightfully calling out Jorge Bergoglio to resign.
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
According to John 8:31-32, all Christians are disciples.
If you actually meant "apostles", Acts 1:22 explains what an apostle was, that there was only 12 of them, minus one who needed to be replaced.
Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
The rules of being an apostle were laid out to be
with the 11 apostles from the time John was baptizing until the time Jesus ascended to heaven on the Mt. of Olives
actually witnessed the resurrection
No Catholic popes were apostles by that definition, and regardless of the catholic gross misinterpretation of Matthew 16:18, Peter was not the first pope.
Vigano is protesting the catholic church, and by catholic church definition Vigano is no longer a catholic because he was excommunicated. He is a protestant.
My arguments referenced actual scripture. If you have some counter-point to debunk my points, I'd expect it to come from the only material we both agree is legitimate, the 66 canonical books of the Bible.
We can agree that scripture is a standard of truth but Sola Scriptura is not the only truth. no biblical passage teaches that Scripture is the formal authority or rule of faith in isolation from the Church and Tradition. The Word of God comes through oral teaching as well as scripture. It's referenced in scripture - "“For twenty-three years . . . the word of the Lord has come to me and I have spoken to you again and again . . . ‘But you did not listen to me,’ declares the Lord. . . . Therefore the Lord Almighty says this: ‘Because you have not listened to my words. . . .’” Jer. 25:3, 7-8
“When you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God” (1 Thess. 2:13).
“Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us” (2 Thess. 3:6).
I'm nor trying to get into a religious argument but simply point to the fact that as brothers in Christ there can be legitmate disagreements over the meaning of words, passages, etc. I'm familiar with many of the arguments but one compelling idea to me is the one of authority. When you dig deep into the early church fathers it's hard to ignore the legitimacy of Catholicism. This is why many top Protestant theologians have converted. People like Scott Hahn, Dr. Taylor Marshall, Dr. A. David Anders, and many others. And I'm sure that they, as well as many other Catholics don't feel Francis is legitimately "Pope" regardless of him occupying the head of the church anymore than most of us don't believe Biden is legitimately the president.
Finally, the fact that Francis excommunicated Vigaro doesn't make the Archbisop Protestant. Vigaro believes traditional Church doctrine fully and is calling out Francis for diluting and subverting it and the teachings of Christ.
Catholics didn't abduct Peter, Christ chose him. Matthew 16:18. From then until today there has been an unbroken line of disciples who have filled the seat of Peter otherwise known as Popes. Flawed, yes? Sinless, no? Vigano, is rightfully calling out Jorge Bergoglio to resign.
"unbroken line of disciples"
This is what Jesus actually says:
According to John 8:31-32, all Christians are disciples.
If you actually meant "apostles", Acts 1:22 explains what an apostle was, that there was only 12 of them, minus one who needed to be replaced.
The rules of being an apostle were laid out to be
with the 11 apostles from the time John was baptizing until the time Jesus ascended to heaven on the Mt. of Olives
actually witnessed the resurrection
No Catholic popes were apostles by that definition, and regardless of the catholic gross misinterpretation of Matthew 16:18, Peter was not the first pope.
Vigano is protesting the catholic church, and by catholic church definition Vigano is no longer a catholic because he was excommunicated. He is a protestant.
This might bring some clarity regarding the successors of Peter.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/peter-and-his-successors
My arguments referenced actual scripture. If you have some counter-point to debunk my points, I'd expect it to come from the only material we both agree is legitimate, the 66 canonical books of the Bible.
We can agree that scripture is a standard of truth but Sola Scriptura is not the only truth. no biblical passage teaches that Scripture is the formal authority or rule of faith in isolation from the Church and Tradition. The Word of God comes through oral teaching as well as scripture. It's referenced in scripture - "“For twenty-three years . . . the word of the Lord has come to me and I have spoken to you again and again . . . ‘But you did not listen to me,’ declares the Lord. . . . Therefore the Lord Almighty says this: ‘Because you have not listened to my words. . . .’” Jer. 25:3, 7-8
“When you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God” (1 Thess. 2:13).
“Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us” (2 Thess. 3:6).
I'm nor trying to get into a religious argument but simply point to the fact that as brothers in Christ there can be legitmate disagreements over the meaning of words, passages, etc. I'm familiar with many of the arguments but one compelling idea to me is the one of authority. When you dig deep into the early church fathers it's hard to ignore the legitimacy of Catholicism. This is why many top Protestant theologians have converted. People like Scott Hahn, Dr. Taylor Marshall, Dr. A. David Anders, and many others. And I'm sure that they, as well as many other Catholics don't feel Francis is legitimately "Pope" regardless of him occupying the head of the church anymore than most of us don't believe Biden is legitimately the president.
Finally, the fact that Francis excommunicated Vigaro doesn't make the Archbisop Protestant. Vigaro believes traditional Church doctrine fully and is calling out Francis for diluting and subverting it and the teachings of Christ.