I'm just going to hijack the top comment to say that it's not a rapture that's coming up, it's final judgment.
That's when Jesus returns and puts an end to sin and the wicked are removed from the earth in a fiery judgment.
Those that are in Christ, which we know is symbolic of the ark, are safe from the judgment to come.
It's like the parable of the wheat and the tares. They are both together and look alike (like the saved and unsaved) but fire is used to burn the tares (a weed that looks just like wheat) away while the wheat remains.
For those that are unfamiliar, the eschatological position (that's just a fancy word for a view of the end times) of the rapture, which is specifically called premillennial dispensationalism, is a belief that has only been popular for about 200 years since the publication of the Schofield reference Bible which was the first Bible that had eschatology footnotes explaining passages that had this fringe believe of a rapture in it.
Unfortunately this Bible was wildly popular because of all of the helpful footnotes. It was widely adopted by a pastors and seminaries and this fringe view of the end times quickly but came the predominant view despite it not being what Christians traditionally believed for 1800 years.
The Bible teaches us that Christ seated at the right hand of the father making all of His enemies His footstool (arguably God's favorite Bible verse since it appears in Scripture more than any other) and to the expanse of his kingdom there shall be no end. Basically God wins.
All the destruction language in the book of Revelation which is over 40% quotes from the Old testament, was about the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem by Rome in 70 AD. Rome was the seven-headed, 10-horned beast. Rome had seven hills with 10 governors. There are a multitude of clear parallels when we think like a Jew in the context of that time, culture, and historical events.
When Christians at the time saw Rome's armies surround Jerusalem and started to lay siege to it they recognized the verse "when you see the abomination of desolation surrounding the holiest of holies flee to the mountains"
Shortly after Romes army started to lay siege to Jerusalem They got called away for some reason and while the rest of the city celebrated, the Christians fled to the mountains. Romes armies came back a few days later and continue the siege.
This was a gruesome event. People were resorting to cannibalism. The streets were running with blood. Sickness and plague were rampant. There were reports of demonic activity. There was also a comet hanging in the sky above the city like a sword. Like bowels of wraith being pored out upon those that had crucified their Messiah.The secular accounts are wild too.
The Temple was completely destroyed. Not one stone was left on top of another just like Jesus foretold. He had also said that this generation shall not pass till all these things take place. He said woe to women with young children. Children were the first to get cannibalized. His prophecy came on time and as promised.
Jesus came on the clouds in judgment and destroyed Jerusalem. The Christians that fled the city were safe from judgment. That was the second coming.
All we have left is final judgment. That's it. Game over. God wins.
IMO the rapture fiction is the greatest lie the devil ever injected into the church. Christians that think they will be yeetted into heaven when things get bad enough not only seem to get excited when things do get bad but they also don't fight and take dominion as the great commission commands. They aren't starting projects and ministries that their great grandchildren will need to finish.
Basically no one polishes brass on a sinking ship.
Not being sarcastic at all but just generally curious. If there is no rapture and the events of "Revelation" has already occured, then what's next in your humble opinion?
As I started with, all that's left is final judgment.
I hope for evil to be exposed and a worldwide revival which certainly seems to be where we are headed.
My hope is for as many people to repent and turn to Christ as possible.
One final judgment happens the earth is restored to essentially the garden. Death, sickness, sin, decay and everything that came out of original sin and the fall, comes to an end.
Heaven on earth. Peace and fellowship with God. Beyond that I'm sure we can't begin to imagine.
The denouement is so simple, so genius, it could only come from God. Paraphrase of one of Kim's prophesies.
I'm just going to hijack the top comment to say that it's not a rapture that's coming up, it's final judgment.
That's when Jesus returns and puts an end to sin and the wicked are removed from the earth in a fiery judgment.
Those that are in Christ, which we know is symbolic of the ark, are safe from the judgment to come.
It's like the parable of the wheat and the tares. They are both together and look alike (like the saved and unsaved) but fire is used to burn the tares (a weed that looks just like wheat) away while the wheat remains.
For those that are unfamiliar, the eschatological position (that's just a fancy word for a view of the end times) of the rapture, which is specifically called premillennial dispensationalism, is a belief that has only been popular for about 200 years since the publication of the Schofield reference Bible which was the first Bible that had eschatology footnotes explaining passages that had this fringe believe of a rapture in it.
Unfortunately this Bible was wildly popular because of all of the helpful footnotes. It was widely adopted by a pastors and seminaries and this fringe view of the end times quickly but came the predominant view despite it not being what Christians traditionally believed for 1800 years.
The Bible teaches us that Christ seated at the right hand of the father making all of His enemies His footstool (arguably God's favorite Bible verse since it appears in Scripture more than any other) and to the expanse of his kingdom there shall be no end. Basically God wins.
All the destruction language in the book of Revelation which is over 40% quotes from the Old testament, was about the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem by Rome in 70 AD. Rome was the seven-headed, 10-horned beast. Rome had seven hills with 10 governors. There are a multitude of clear parallels when we think like a Jew in the context of that time, culture, and historical events.
When Christians at the time saw Rome's armies surround Jerusalem and started to lay siege to it they recognized the verse "when you see the abomination of desolation surrounding the holiest of holies flee to the mountains"
Shortly after Romes army started to lay siege to Jerusalem They got called away for some reason and while the rest of the city celebrated, the Christians fled to the mountains. Romes armies came back a few days later and continue the siege.
This was a gruesome event. People were resorting to cannibalism. The streets were running with blood. Sickness and plague were rampant. There were reports of demonic activity. There was also a comet hanging in the sky above the city like a sword. Like bowels of wraith being pored out upon those that had crucified their Messiah.The secular accounts are wild too.
The Temple was completely destroyed. Not one stone was left on top of another just like Jesus foretold. He had also said that this generation shall not pass till all these things take place. He said woe to women with young children. Children were the first to get cannibalized. His prophecy came on time and as promised.
Jesus came on the clouds in judgment and destroyed Jerusalem. The Christians that fled the city were safe from judgment. That was the second coming.
All we have left is final judgment. That's it. Game over. God wins.
IMO the rapture fiction is the greatest lie the devil ever injected into the church. Christians that think they will be yeetted into heaven when things get bad enough not only seem to get excited when things do get bad but they also don't fight and take dominion as the great commission commands. They aren't starting projects and ministries that their great grandchildren will need to finish. Basically no one polishes brass on a sinking ship.
Thank you.
^this^ couldn't have said it better myself. Escapeism theology is a big problem on this board.
Not being sarcastic at all but just generally curious. If there is no rapture and the events of "Revelation" has already occured, then what's next in your humble opinion?
Most of the events in revelation have occurred.
As I started with, all that's left is final judgment.
I hope for evil to be exposed and a worldwide revival which certainly seems to be where we are headed.
My hope is for as many people to repent and turn to Christ as possible.
One final judgment happens the earth is restored to essentially the garden. Death, sickness, sin, decay and everything that came out of original sin and the fall, comes to an end.
Heaven on earth. Peace and fellowship with God. Beyond that I'm sure we can't begin to imagine.