Welcome to General Chat - GAW Community Area
This General Chat area started off as a place for people to talk about things that are off topic, however it has quickly evolved into a community and has become an integral part of the GAW experience for many of us.
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Rules for General Chat
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I haven’t watched Nascar cup racing in over ten years. We used to never miss a race on TV, if in car listened on radio. Saw many races a year in early 90s. After Earnhardt died the sport gradually went downhill. Then they went woke. I grew up with it, my dad went a lot and I went first time at 15, 1981. I still miss racing and am very thankful I witnessed it when it was a damned great sport. I’ve never been into other forms of racing. Is F1 woke? I don’t know much about that series.
F1 is turning into a Globalist Flagship. They went Woke a few years back and I lost much interest. I've been a diehard McLaren fan and my Father loves F1 so i still follow it because we have that father and son connection. They have banned Alcohol advertising. It used to have a relaxed European laissez faire attitude. Now they have a more self righteous guilt attitude. More Globalist design to control our natural state of relaxed mind. The actual race was very exciting today.
Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like anything with big sponsorship has gone woke. I understand the connection with your dad and it’s great you have that. My dad still watches probably just to have something to watch. He’s 81 and spends lots of time watching TV, if he’s happy that’s all that matters. He’s semi awake. I think he watches more because he’s followed it since the 70s, lots of memories for him. Nascar (used to be) Winston Cup until the cigarette companies fell. It was a sport mainly in the south for the working class and rednecks. Even once it went nationwide it was still mainly working class. Seeing the rebel flag frown was as common as the American flag & driver flags. After they banned the rebel flag that was the big downfall for old fans. The stands were empty because the prices were so high and the many changes. So they removed grandstands instead of dropping ticket prices. At this point they hadn’t gone woke. Mainly changed the way they raced splitting it up mid way, inverting the field etc. It was in a new attempt to help the lower performing drivers. A bunch of BS, if you don’t have what it takes to win that’s on you. Just like everyone getting participation trophies in kids sports, that was the case. The old drivers were retiring and they had drivers that didn’t know what it meant racing to put food on the table or go home and work your life away in a mill down south. Days of Thunder is a good movie showing how it used to be. Maybe a little exaggerated but some things are spot on. The two main characters fighting on the track is loosely based on Earnhardt and Rusty Wallace. Basically Earnhardt was a big part of the decision making because he was friends with Bill France (owner of Nascar).