This was a precision military attack against people using pagers that were MORE EXPENSIVE THAN CELL PHONES that were ordered by and passed out by Hezbollah to its members. These weren't being sold at corner stores. Civilians have CHEAPER cell phones.
IF the target is civilian infrastructure or if the intent is to cause fear, suffering, or destruction among the civilian population, this would more likely be considered an act of terrorism. Terrorism is often defined as violent acts aimed at civilians, intending to create fear or achieve political or ideological goals outside of legitimate warfare.
Key factors that determine whether it is an act of terrorism or warfare include:
Target: If the infrastructure is purely civilian (e.g., water treatment plants, hospitals, power grids for residential areas), it may be classified as terrorism.
Intent: If the intent is to cause psychological terror or indiscriminate harm to civilians, rather than a direct military advantage, this could be labeled as terrorism.
Proportionality: Under international law, attacks should not cause excessive civilian harm relative to the anticipated military gain. If the attack disregards this balance, it may also be considered a war crime or act of terrorism.
Well from the video I've seen 95%+ of the people in the hospital were military age males. Also ZERO buildings were destroyed. You couldn't get that type of precision with ANY other type of attack.
Sabotaging enemy equipment can be considered a legitimate military action, it only crosses the line into terrorism if civilians or non-military targets are deliberately attacked or if the goal is to create fear among the civilian population. International law seeks to distinguish between lawful acts of war and acts of terrorism based on the nature of the target and the intent behind the action.
Yeah cause tons of civilians are using walkie-talkies
CIVILIANS USE CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE CALL PHONES.
A cheap pair of walkie talkies can be had for $20-$30. How much is a single cell phone bill.
I live and work in and around a lot of areas with zero cell reception. Walkie talkies can a necessity for people who don't live in urban centers.
I know plenty of parents whose kids play with walkie talkies.
You can hate Israel AND not be intellectually dishonest at the same time.
Blowing up civilians through sheer indifference doesn't stop being an evil act just because OUR GREATEST ALLY does it. It's intellectually dishonest to say it's ok to blow up civilians just because they were standing too close to some terrorist goat fucker.
If you think these guys are using cheap walking talkies and not encrypted digital ones then you are a royal fucknut.
They didn't blow up civilians. These were small devices with small explosive charges. Enough to hurt the person holding / wearing them. Like good old skool M-80s and quarter sticks.
Anyways enjoy your day of eating paste. I'm got adult things to do.
They're setting off bombs in a civilian area and they don't know where the bombs actually are, if there are innocent people near by, or what effect the explosion is going to have. That is, BY DEFINITION, not a targeted strike.
There have been literally thousands of explosions going off between pagers and other items (which have been detailed in other threads here) all over that city. We also know that the pager explosions were pretty much synchronized. I'm not even willing to entertain the argument that Israel waited for there to be no innocent people around because there's already videos of those pagers going off in stores and (the aftermath of) while people are driving.
Also, pajeets generally don't like muslims, something-something muslis trying to kill them. Indian and Pakistan have been threatening to nuke each other for decades now. I don't see an Indian activist woman going to bat for muslims.
^this.
OP is trying to redefine "terrorism"
This was a precision military attack against people using pagers that were MORE EXPENSIVE THAN CELL PHONES that were ordered by and passed out by Hezbollah to its members. These weren't being sold at corner stores. Civilians have CHEAPER cell phones.
IF the target is civilian infrastructure or if the intent is to cause fear, suffering, or destruction among the civilian population, this would more likely be considered an act of terrorism. Terrorism is often defined as violent acts aimed at civilians, intending to create fear or achieve political or ideological goals outside of legitimate warfare.
Key factors that determine whether it is an act of terrorism or warfare include:
Target: If the infrastructure is purely civilian (e.g., water treatment plants, hospitals, power grids for residential areas), it may be classified as terrorism.
Intent: If the intent is to cause psychological terror or indiscriminate harm to civilians, rather than a direct military advantage, this could be labeled as terrorism.
Proportionality: Under international law, attacks should not cause excessive civilian harm relative to the anticipated military gain. If the attack disregards this balance, it may also be considered a war crime or act of terrorism.
Well from the video I've seen 95%+ of the people in the hospital were military age males. Also ZERO buildings were destroyed. You couldn't get that type of precision with ANY other type of attack.
Sabotaging enemy equipment can be considered a legitimate military action, it only crosses the line into terrorism if civilians or non-military targets are deliberately attacked or if the goal is to create fear among the civilian population. International law seeks to distinguish between lawful acts of war and acts of terrorism based on the nature of the target and the intent behind the action.
Lebanon is not to be confused with Palestine.
Pagers were not the only civilian devices that were booby-trapped, but reportedly also walkie-talkies, home solar energy equipment, etc.
"booby-traps are banned under international law. “Weaponizing an object used by civilians is strictly prohibited,”
Source: https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-exploding-pagers-hezbollah-syria-ce6af3c2e6de0a0dddfae48634278288
"Walkie-talkies and other devices exploded at a funeral for Hezbollah leaders"
Yeah cause tons of civilians are using walkie-talkies and not cell phones./s
I'll say it again.... CIVILIANS USE CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE CALL PHONES.
These pagers were NOT being sold at stores, they were passed out to Hezbollah members.
This clearly falls in the category of military equipment.
You can hate Israel AND not be intellectually dishonest at the same time.
A cheap pair of walkie talkies can be had for $20-$30. How much is a single cell phone bill.
I live and work in and around a lot of areas with zero cell reception. Walkie talkies can a necessity for people who don't live in urban centers.
I know plenty of parents whose kids play with walkie talkies.
Blowing up civilians through sheer indifference doesn't stop being an evil act just because OUR GREATEST ALLY does it. It's intellectually dishonest to say it's ok to blow up civilians just because they were standing too close to some terrorist goat fucker.
Holy category error batman.!
If you think these guys are using cheap walking talkies and not encrypted digital ones then you are a royal fucknut.
They didn't blow up civilians. These were small devices with small explosive charges. Enough to hurt the person holding / wearing them. Like good old skool M-80s and quarter sticks.
Anyways enjoy your day of eating paste. I'm got adult things to do.
Home appliances....
https://x.com/RituRathaur/status/1836474741802303919
Two week later... how's this working out?
https://x.com/RituRathaur/status/1836474741802303919
Now home appliances are exploding. Is this still "as targeted as can be"?
Okay first of all A woman in India isn't really a 1st hand account of what's going on.
Secondly.. what appliances exactly?
I'm open to being wrong but I'm gonna need some better sources and clear details.
I hope we can agree the other side has a HUGE interest in making this seem like it's more than a targeted strikes for optics.
They're setting off bombs in a civilian area and they don't know where the bombs actually are, if there are innocent people near by, or what effect the explosion is going to have. That is, BY DEFINITION, not a targeted strike.
There have been literally thousands of explosions going off between pagers and other items (which have been detailed in other threads here) all over that city. We also know that the pager explosions were pretty much synchronized. I'm not even willing to entertain the argument that Israel waited for there to be no innocent people around because there's already videos of those pagers going off in stores and (the aftermath of) while people are driving.
Also, pajeets generally don't like muslims, something-something muslis trying to kill them. Indian and Pakistan have been threatening to nuke each other for decades now. I don't see an Indian activist woman going to bat for muslims.
Lol hardly. I can't stand Israel. Who am I rooting for? None of the above. I hope they all lose.
But I'm not such an intellectually dishonest fucktard that I need to redefine words or misrepresent those that I dislike. I have integrity.
You should try it.