You ignored the constitutional requirement that I pointed out, and you pretend it says something that it does not say.
You then falsely equate the two.
There IS a difference.
The DIFFERENCE is the key.
Politicians and other types of wanabe tyrants ALWAYS talk about "democracy" BECAUSE they don't like the constraints of a republican form of government.
For that reason, many of us INSIST on pointing out that the USA is REPUBLICAN in its legal form and NOT a democracy.
There are democratic ELEMENTS when it comes to voting for (a) local government, (b) state legislature, (c) state executive branch, and (d) members of House of Representatives.
But senators and president were NOT by democratic vote.
The checks and balances, along with the constitutional PROHIBITIONS against the federal government's powers are what made the American system unique, and are the ONLY reason we still have some vestages of liberty left.
It has been a tough nut for the wanabe tyrants to crack -- though they have been trying since the foundation.
Many of us view it as TREASONOUS to claim that the USA is a "democracy," when we know damn well that such a thing leads to tyranny, which leads to communism, which is a form of slavery.
The OP's quote from Marx is wrong. Democracy does not lead to socialism. It is much worse. It leads to slavery.
Without the checks and balances of a REPUBLICAN form of government, you end up in slavery.
THIS is why it matters to call out the FALSE claims.
Democracy ends and tyranny begins when 51% realize they can vote to take away the property and other rights of the other 49%.
We are on the brink of that reality ... RIGHT NOW.
In public discourse, the use of the word "democracy" invokes a majority rules concept, and nothing more. Sure, it is "the people" voting for this or that, but ultimately it is ONLY the majority voting for something that matters.
And that is a dangerous idea.
THAT is why they use that word.
Use of the word "republic" is far more complex, and invokes the idea of checks and balances and limited authority of the government -- at least, as the founders understood it.
Yes, of course, we hear "banana republic" and "third world republic" and "republic of this or that."
WHY would people who want to DECEIVE, for the purpose of CONTROL, champion the use of the word "democracy" while using pejoratives for the word "republic?"
The ONLY reason would be for psychological manipulation to get people to think: democracy, good; republic, bad.
This is the exact opposite of what SHOULD be promoted in public.
That reminds me of how today, in the 21st century, how we can look at history books, which show that Thomas Jefferson's political party ("faction") was Democrat-Republican.
WHY do they say that?
It is a LIE.
Jefferson called himself and his like-minded thinkers: REPUBLICANS.
"Democrat" was a word used for Andrew Jackson and his peeps.
The term "Democrat-Republican" is a made-up term, unknown to Jefferson, and one created for the purpose of deception.
BTW, you still have sidestepped my original point that the Constitution REQUIRES a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
Why?
"Representative democracy" is not an answer, because it is not a republican form government.
P.S.: Slavery was inherited, not invented by Americans, with a political compromise to preserve it for 21 years after the Constitution (age of majority under the law), and then it would be open to abolishing. It was a compromise, and not a feature, of the new government. So, that is a moot point.
The USA is not a Democracy, the USA is not even Representative Democracy, the USA is constitutional republic. Representative Democracy is the most dangerous form of democracy.
USA is not a democracy, never has been and never will be. Representative democracy is the most dangerous form of democracy, Germany was a representative democracy when Hitler was elected to power.
Great quotes, but they were ALL wrong, because ...
US Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:
So, you should be asking: What IS a republican form of government, as opposed to a democracy, and why did the Founding Fathers REQUIRE it?
Fact check: FALSE.
You ignored the constitutional requirement that I pointed out, and you pretend it says something that it does not say.
You then falsely equate the two.
There IS a difference.
The DIFFERENCE is the key.
Politicians and other types of wanabe tyrants ALWAYS talk about "democracy" BECAUSE they don't like the constraints of a republican form of government.
For that reason, many of us INSIST on pointing out that the USA is REPUBLICAN in its legal form and NOT a democracy.
There are democratic ELEMENTS when it comes to voting for (a) local government, (b) state legislature, (c) state executive branch, and (d) members of House of Representatives.
But senators and president were NOT by democratic vote.
The checks and balances, along with the constitutional PROHIBITIONS against the federal government's powers are what made the American system unique, and are the ONLY reason we still have some vestages of liberty left.
It has been a tough nut for the wanabe tyrants to crack -- though they have been trying since the foundation.
Many of us view it as TREASONOUS to claim that the USA is a "democracy," when we know damn well that such a thing leads to tyranny, which leads to communism, which is a form of slavery.
The OP's quote from Marx is wrong. Democracy does not lead to socialism. It is much worse. It leads to slavery.
Without the checks and balances of a REPUBLICAN form of government, you end up in slavery.
THIS is why it matters to call out the FALSE claims.
Democracy ends and tyranny begins when 51% realize they can vote to take away the property and other rights of the other 49%.
We are on the brink of that reality ... RIGHT NOW.
In public discourse, the use of the word "democracy" invokes a majority rules concept, and nothing more. Sure, it is "the people" voting for this or that, but ultimately it is ONLY the majority voting for something that matters.
And that is a dangerous idea.
THAT is why they use that word.
Use of the word "republic" is far more complex, and invokes the idea of checks and balances and limited authority of the government -- at least, as the founders understood it.
Yes, of course, we hear "banana republic" and "third world republic" and "republic of this or that."
WHY would people who want to DECEIVE, for the purpose of CONTROL, champion the use of the word "democracy" while using pejoratives for the word "republic?"
The ONLY reason would be for psychological manipulation to get people to think: democracy, good; republic, bad.
This is the exact opposite of what SHOULD be promoted in public.
That reminds me of how today, in the 21st century, how we can look at history books, which show that Thomas Jefferson's political party ("faction") was Democrat-Republican.
WHY do they say that?
It is a LIE.
Jefferson called himself and his like-minded thinkers: REPUBLICANS.
"Democrat" was a word used for Andrew Jackson and his peeps.
The term "Democrat-Republican" is a made-up term, unknown to Jefferson, and one created for the purpose of deception.
BTW, you still have sidestepped my original point that the Constitution REQUIRES a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
Why?
"Representative democracy" is not an answer, because it is not a republican form government.
P.S.: Slavery was inherited, not invented by Americans, with a political compromise to preserve it for 21 years after the Constitution (age of majority under the law), and then it would be open to abolishing. It was a compromise, and not a feature, of the new government. So, that is a moot point.
The USA is not a Democracy, the USA is not even Representative Democracy, the USA is constitutional republic. Representative Democracy is the most dangerous form of democracy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV5arQxexyg&t=153s
“Democracy” is the means of ELECTING a Republican government.
It is not the form of government itself. Do more research.
Gosh, ok.
USA is not a democracy, never has been and never will be. Representative democracy is the most dangerous form of democracy, Germany was a representative democracy when Hitler was elected to power.