At the risk of being banned, I feel a great need to engage the Board about the topic of the Plan, and how we will know when... well, that it's "done".
I don't know how else to explain this fascinating dynamic, so let me first list some things that I commonly hear on this Board and that I am constantly trying to reconcile. I'll post the saying, or belief, and then a short comment in brackets [ ].
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God wins. [Yes, of course He does. I believe this. But do we know what this actually translates into in this world, for humans? It is comforting in one way, but it is the Great Ambiguity as well as the Great Euphemism in another.]
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Nothing can stop what is coming. [Similar to #1. I believe this. I think we all do. But what is the "What"? Justice and goodness? That's what we believe and we are hoping for.]
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Trust the Plan. [Similar to #1 and #2. I do trust the Plan. The reason I am making this post is because I don't KNOW the Plan. That is what "trust" is... similar to faith. I have seen enough evidence that there is a Plan, and I believe it to be real and to be good.]
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Eat more popcorn. [This phrase is frustrating because it's basically implying that there's nothing to do but... #'s 1, 2 and 3... just have faith and trust. That's all good, but this cannot go on forever. Some of you/us have been waiting for decades. Some of you found this Board yesterday. Regardless, this state of mind is not sustainable for most people. So, when will we know that we do not need more popcorn? When Trump is the President?]
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We're watching a movie. [Yes, I know. It's kind of entertaining, I guess. But if I'm being truthful, it's frustrating and irritating. Like many of you, I'm ready for it to be over. See the next point.]
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This is a war. [I understand. And, it will take time... a long time... to unravel and dismantle the global Cabal that has existed for centuries. So, my need for expediency is not important. And people will suffer and people will die, and there will be ugliness. This is a war!! Put my big boy pants on, man up, etc. I get it. No need to keep saying THIS IS A WAR. All I want to know is how will we know when it is over?]
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Things are happening. [Yes, they are. A lot of things. We have win after win after win piling up. I KNOW! Again... how will we know when it's done? What signs, what wins, what habbenings will be the signal that it's done? When and why do we get to say "I told you so" to that smug in-law who loves FJB/KH? When and why do we get to come out of the fog of ambiguity and say, "This finally feels like solid ground, and a new life can begin"? Will it even be like that? Or are we going to be in this malaise of winning and changing and winning for the next 30 years? ]
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Patriots are in control. [This goes with #7, in particular. None of what we're seeing would happen if Patriots were not in control. But what does that really mean? Because there are a lot of things that seem like they're not in control. Or is that part of the script? Well, when it's a win, Patriots are in control--but something not so good means it's part of the script.]
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We must show them. [Yes, we do. The normies need to awaken via a process by which they are showing the evil that exists. And, we need to experience the Precipice as part of this showing. I can tell you right now: the longer things play out, and the longer the dripping continues, the more desensitized and tuned-out people become. So, I have a feeling that something cataclysmic is going to happen very, very soon, otherwise we will have missed the opportunity to truly awaken people].
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Take a break. [I understand self-care. I understand checking out and letting go and grounding myself. It is during those times that what I am explaining here comes into focus. Any rational person who without any context reads the above 9 statements would say, "That sounds circular or never-ending. You're being told that there's a plan and that you're winning, and that you should watch and be patient, and that it's a war so stop getting uppity because can't you see all that is happening to show them the evil and awaken them, and take a break if you can't handle it. But you never know when you're done. You're just supposed to keep at it, and endure." ]
There are other phrases and euphemisms, but these are the ones I hear/see the most.
What's my point in all of this? First, I'm not complaining--so don't bother to tell me to stop. I am looking past the war. And I want to know if we know how we will know that it is over.
Will Q post and tell us?
Will Trump tell us?
Will we just have to discern that we've won (continue to point to "wins")?
What are the things that will be proof that the fog of war has cleared and we are the victors? Public executions? Big Pharma ends and is replaced with med beds? Aliens walk among us and show us how to live up to our potential? All human traffickers are rounded up and disposed of? All but 6% of the population walks around with a smile and screaming, "Yes, I get it! I'm awake. We are free of the Cabal!" The Cabal masters are named, rounded up and disposed of? A 48-hour documentary is shared that details everything? There is peace. There are jobs. All of the above? Other things?
The deeper point is this: It is not healthy for the human psyche to sustain the watchfulness, hope, and preparedness for so long, and then not have a catharsis.
We need a cathartic moment. We need to know it's over. We need to know that the storm is over. I sure hope and pray that the Q Team accounted for this basic human condition, as the prolonged state of mind leads to desensitization, doubts and loss of hope, and overall disappointment at the falling short of expectations.
And that's the last point: We have been led to have expectations. And boy do I have them! And I am doing my best to spread them and encourage others to have them. Everything--EVERYTHING--is riding on this Plan. From world freedom from the Cabal to my petty need to say "I told you so", and everything in-between... and most people would say not to place all my eggs in this one basket. Well, Q, you're the basket, and you've got all my eggs. I'm in it to win it, and I want to know when we've won, and I want to know how we will know that we have won.
Edit: Interestingly enough, this post was made not too long after mine. If you have not watched this 6 minute video, please do. It is a great summary of what's going on, big picture and at a detailed level. It is hopeful, and answers my questions as to how we will know: https://greatawakening.win/p/1995CLejoG/the-dam-is-breaking/c/
At #1 God wins is not ambiguous. Read Genesis to Revelation. God as outside of time, humans are within time on earth. God has already won, being outside of time Alpha and Omega. The winning is:
A)was done at the cross wherein whosoever believes im the redemptive blood of Jesus will have everlasting life.
B) those who do not believe in their life being redeemed by the blood of Jesus will also have an eternal existence separate from all goodness which is also separate from God's presence which is then condition of hell.
C) we are in the timeline that God has revealed to use through the word, the bible, wherein eventually those that fight with/for Jesus vs. all others/forces of darkness battle at Armageddon and are *slaughtered. And in finally, God creates a new heaven and earth free of the darkness that corrupts this one. Apparently a lot of Christians don't know about the new heaven and earth...read the last 2 or 3 chapters of Revelation.
So, God has already won is not only the leash ambiguiously defined phrase here but it is literally thee most certainly defined ...if you are a believer in Christ.
That's a helpful summary. Thanks. I guess what I meant was more about the daily grind of being human. Can I pay my bills? Can I afford my groceries? Will my grandchildren have a peaceful life as I did? That kind of stuff. Thinking of this in terms of God's final victory is a certain perspective (that I realize trumps all) but it doesn't provide a lot of comfort with respect to human condition here and now.
Sure. It doesn't. But, that IS then point. I...I am unprepared to go deep into this but, let me see if I can be brief-ish.
This life is not LIFE. This life is to give out soul experiential choice. Ok, lets put that aside for a moment.
In Genesis, God created humans to have be with God, have choice, and to create (which is why Satan hates us and its envious of God). Being innocent man's first choice was to master knowledge in deflect from the serpent Ha'Satan. From that point, instead of following God we corrupted our relationship with God and we are relentlessly tied to working and too long the earth to survive instead of being in God's bosom. Now all humans, animals, plants die. And God sacrificed the first animal the first blood to cover us. From that point, yes, life on Earth will be and has been 'The Suck.' And humans are under the sway of Satan...
Ok, back to the first pin... So, life here has been about choice, choice to be in and multiply good (as defined by God) or to serve self and man (which is in the end, serving Satan.)
I don't know if you've read Genesis, Revelation, John, Hebrews, and perhaps Job. But, those highlight the way and what past and future.
Will your kids or grand's lives be better? Maybe. Kingdoms don't matter. All of humanity is going down, being further and further sip it between light and dark. That does not feel good. But, that leads to the final breaking apart of good and bad factions. Which will be turbulent. At any given point of time life is more or less sucky year to year for any given human life.
But again, the only thing that truly matters is fighting for bigger God-goodness-light or being a knowing or unknowing member of darkness.
We/Christians live for LIFE not life. This life is essentially a battle ground.
What choices you, your grannies, anyone makes is up to them. And, in revelation and basically all the bible, the harder path in life is following God's as it is in opposition to the (little r) ruler of the world at the time, Ha'Satan. So, will life be GOOD for your grannies??? How do you define GOOD? I am sure diddy thought/thinks of his life as good.
Excellent post Allergic.
Awe-schucks! ☺️ thank you!
Being warriors for Good is definitely our family culture. Is life hard sometimes? Yes. There are always struggles, and I am not suggesting that there never will be.
But humans created in the image of God are capable of creating a better world, with God's grace, and we should strive for that, not just be along for the ride and try to simply stay on the Good side with our choices. We create beautiful God-inspired things every day, ever moment. Through us God can create His beauty on earth.
I think you are both right. It’s far too easy to become an isolationist taking the mindset Allergic mentioned. We can become so uninvolved with the world, that we desire to avoid it, to merely make it to death. I’m certain that is not Allergic’s view, but the slippery slope still exists. Looking at the life quality of our families leads down another slippery slope that the Bible will quickly tell you is meaningless like vanity, vanity…
So in what belief system can we avoid these slippery slopes, or at least place safeguards around either slope?
Loser Theology is certainly a praised theology among many Christians today, I think that is the isolationist view.
A right view of scripture will plainly tell you that you must care for your family, your community, and even those unknown to yourself (Good Samaritan) while you hold in a clear conscience the eternal perspective of our lives. Our focus ought to be two fold, this is why Paul recommends singleness, as your focus can be single minded. But to those with family’s, you must have a double focus. One on the wellbeing of your family, and one on the eternal weighty matters.
You're on a roll, bro.
I wanted to say something like this but had to spend much of the day outside with the chainsaw.
This idea that "Oh yeah, this isn't our real world, our real world is heaven"--man, do I want to skreel when I hear people say that.
My ancestors were among the founders of this Republic, and they were motivated by FAITH IN PROVIDENCE and a desire to MAKE THIS WORLD BETTER as thanks-giving for the Providential gifts.
Need I quote the first seven words of John 3:16?
In my soulview, we retain the context that Life is eternal, our lives are eternal, eternity is our birthright and God's legacy to us. We must demand and enact and commit to the creation of lives worthy of that. Here and now, and on and on.
Thank you for including my voice in this robust, quality thread.