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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

He’s very motivated to dismantle the three letter agencies.

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MichaelConservative 3 points ago +3 / -0

What actual voter is voting democrat after this soup sandwich?!

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hence why I made that distinction between Obama’s and Peterson’s uses of the word progressive. Just an observation. They always say their plans out loud, the normies are too blind (not dumb, big distinction) to see that. This is an easy battle ground for us, so long as we don’t make the mistake of our enemies, over extending our hand. We give our fellow man enough to be curious and to question the elites’ motives.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Modern problems require modern solutions.

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MichaelConservative 3 points ago +3 / -0

A lot to unpack here, including in the comments. I don’t know what the solution will be in the end, since humans are by nature sinful creatures.

What I do know is this, marriage and love is not what people commonly say it is. The feeling of warmth and affection is merely a benefit of a good love and not the end goal nor the requirement for love. Lemme tell you a short story about my love for my brother in a familial way.

We got into a big fight, he wouldn’t talk to me, and when he left (we were both at a party), his car had an issue, he called me with 1% off battery left on his phone, and his car battery light on in the middle of the night. I was not going to leave the party at that time except that I received that call. I sprang up and immediately went out to get my brother. I ran him down, driving over 100 on country roads and the highway. Thank the Lord I didn’t get in a wreck myself. I caught up to him and hollered to see if he was ok (he was still driving). His belt had slipped but was working again, his phone was dead, and he was alright. The next day (we were both living at the parents house) we were both completely over this horrible fight, and to this day, I don’t even remember the fight.

It takes both sides to come down off the fight, it also usually takes more than the ordinary to reset things. But marriage is more love than a brotherly love, or it ought to be. The ideology that marriage is a throwaway commodity is the ruin of our nation and our lives. We must seek forgiveness from God, and from each other. If you are both people of faith, any amount, call each other to repentance. Marriage is more than warm fuzzies. It is like gardening, you’re saying that the garden is well overgrown and it would be easier to burn it down and walk away, but that creates the mindset of a lack of discipline. People who divorce once are far more likely to divorce again.

The hardest answer is usually the correct answer in life, so I offer this:

1st: pray

2nd: forgive

3rd: start weeding the garden

If through all of this, you in your own power cannot hold the marriage together and your spouse leaves, they have committed the grave sin, and leave God to judge them. But before that call is made, be sure you’ve really done everything in your power to make it work. Marriage is a lifetime vow. Til death do us part.

Heavenly Father, I ask that you give the OP strength to make godly decisions, that through those godly decisions, you would bless this family with love anew, and that you would make them a foundation that can never be moved. For oh Lord, you are that foundation. May you be blessed forever and your name be magnified. In Jesus’ most precious name, Amen.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sheol is not hell. Because Samuel a prophet of God is in Sheol when Saul calls him forth from the dead. So not misinterpreting the Bible is key. Sheol is the place of the dead. After death and prior to Jesus’ second coming.

We don’t know for whom Jesus Christ died for, I have no assurance that you are saved, but I also don’t know you’re condemned. I’m left with preaching and teaching in hopes that you are saved. Each person knows their own heart though. So this has to do with people cannot read minds, whereas God can. I’m not constrained in presenting the gospel to only those I deem to be saved. The gospel is for anyone and should be freely offered to all. To withhold the gospel is to violate it. You then teach them to trust that Jesus died for them, you wouldn’t teach them insecurity in hopes that they learn security, but you teach them security in God in hopes that they hold fast to it. You equip them with knowledge and faith, not one or the other.

Now I may have taken the same liberty I argued against earlier but I’m not too big to admit when I’m wrong. As iron sharpens iron…

Ephesians 2:12

[12] remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.

This may appear at the forefront to be saying God is not present in hell, but appears to be saying more along the lines of saying that there’s no common grace of God to those in hell. So on earth, the feeble lives we live are far more blessed than we deserve because of God’s common grace (it rains on both the righteous and the unrighteous). Whereas those in heaven enjoy not only common grace, but what I would call specific grace, as God specifically had called them out of darkness and into his marvelous light.

Edit: I don’t mean that first paragraph as an attack, I hope you don’t take it that way. It’s very easy to misquote or mistake the meaning of scriptures and when we are wrong we admit it and ask God for forgiveness. I’m not saying you are of the ones who change the scriptures spoken of in Revelations by any means. I’m 100% sure I know not all of the truths of the Bible and there are places I could be corrected. And you sir found one of them, thank you for that.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hell is the absence of God. That is the biggest defining feature of it.

You didn’t provide a clear explanation as it had a qualifier that lent itself to more than one explanation. Understanding the Bible requires that we look at the whole of the scriptures with an understanding of context as well. Jesus clearly said that the path to heaven is narrow and difficult, whereas the path to the place of weeping and gnashing of teeth is wide and open. Meaning that most people will go to hell and less will go to heaven.

Matthew 7:13-14

[13] “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. [14] For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Luke 13:24

[24] “Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

Matthew 19:24-26

[24] Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” [25] When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?” [26] But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Matthew 24:9-14

[9] “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. [10] And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. [11] And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. [12] And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. [13] But the one who endures to the end will be saved. [14] And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Acts 2:21

[21] And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Romans 9:27-29

[27] And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the sons of Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will be saved, [28] for the Lord will carry out his sentence upon the earth fully and without delay.” [29] And as Isaiah predicted,

If the Lord of hosts had not left us offspring, we would have been like Sodom and become like Gomorrah.

So I could go on. But I think this is MORE than enough evidence to show that heaven is not for all mankind, but hell is sadly for most people. We should then be more motivated to preach the gospel to unbelievers knowing what their end is.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

if your eyes are truly opened, you would never deny it, knowing what the opposite will give you.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Daily you violate the Ten Commandments, as do I. Read the interpretation Jesus gives on them, pretty insane to follow them. as I wrote elsewhere, God removes the scales from our eyes and we have no good choice but to follow him. This is what people call effectual calling.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

To answer this, you can see my other comments in this thread. But there’s responsibility from man alone for man’s sin. God effectually calls people to himself. It’s not to say you don’t have to choose or it’s on you to choose. It’s more like this, God opens your eyes in such a way, that the only reasonable choice is belief in him. The effectual call is the removing of the scales from your eyes. This is why people who generally most vehemently oppose biblical beliefs don’t read the Bible, won’t hear out your arguments, and don’t care.

This is a position that many get wrapped around the wheel needlessly.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Man is sinful beyond self-salvation. The idea of total depravity can actually be pretty easily seen in the Bible. See here how God hardened the heart of Pharaoh, maybe the idea of the how is not explained, but the why is. So the how shows us that God didn’t make Pharaoh evil, he was already evil, but God had removed his restraining hand from pharaoh’s heart that allowed him to become much more evil very quickly, why? Because man (apart from God) is (louder for the people in the back!) totally depraved.

Romans 9:15-23

*[15] For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” [16] So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. [17] For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” [18] So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.

[19] You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” [20] But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” [21] Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? [22] What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, [23] in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory—*

More examples would be when the Bible says, he gave them over to the desires of the flesh.

If I’m wrong, then you by default say that God made these people sin, but the Bible says and God says that God cannot make you sin, he only puts you through tests with a way to escape.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, and having no argument isn’t worthy of this board. I have taken great pains to answer each and any question or to refute comments such as this, but this? This is laziness belief.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here’s the problem with Catholicism, and what makes it hard. The hard part is that 99% of Catholicism is fine, very little issues. The problem I have is the 1% problem is a snow ball effect into an avalanche. There are things that the pope can say (I know not everything, but particular times in history) that can be counted to be worthy of the same honor as God’s word (the Jews to the same with the Talmud).

“Praying to the Saints” meaning asking a saint to pray for you, like you would ask a friend to pray for you is also wrong. The Bible isn’t unclear on this.

3 examples:

Saul, a necromancer, and Samuel (post death). Saul calls up Samuel’s spirit to ask him to ask God for wisdom in an upcoming battle, Samuel instead punishes him for the use of the necromancer and tells him why God won’t speak to him through the prophets.

The story of Lazarus where the one who wronged him wanted to save himself, was denied, said at least let me tell my family, and it is said, if they will not believe the prophets, will they believe you?

Isaiah 8:19

[19] And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

“Specially of those that believe”

I means, it’s right there that should cause you doubt and questions as to what you are saying. Romans 8, Ephesians 1 have this pesky word called “predestination” in which God has destined before it happens, that some will be saved and some will not. Romans 2 speaks heavily on God’s judgement against sinful men. In fact, the Bible has so many references to not all men being saved, starting as far back as Genesis 6, I could make a nearly infinite case. What’s more, Jesus speaks more about hell than anyone else in the Bible. To deny hell and deny God’s holy attribute of Justice is heresy, not the belief in it (called TULIP)

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think the difference it makes in your day to day life is big. When properly understood, you should have deep peace that isn’t shaken by current events/ disasters, you will find it easier to forgive those who have wronged you. You will be more rooted in your faith, not finding that every headline reading “We have proven the Bible isn’t true is…” which never seem to add up to anything, but people get worried or spun up. God cannot be canceled like the left is so found of doing. So it is mainly a change of perspective, which can do many people much good.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Define for all. Available to all? Are all forgiven? Are there any destined for hell besides demons and the devil? The Bible supports one of two theories in my opinion:

Salvation is available to every person but not given to every person (regardless of “sinfulness”)

Every sin is forgiven (to ward of God’s impending wrath immediately) but not everyone is given Jesus’s acts of obedience.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree. I also believe the theology of TULIP because it helps to ease the explanation of the “how” it works out. Blessed are those who have believed and not seen.

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MichaelConservative 1 point ago +1 / -0

Both head and heart knowledge are required, if you love God, you ought to desire to know him through the normal means (the Bible and experience as a secondary). If God converts your heart and you never attend a Bible study, who am I to say you won’t be saved, the thief on the cross is a perfect example against that idea actually (may be one of the most interesting stories of salvation apart from the wonder of salvation even being possible). But consider the parable of the seeds, if you ride up quickly with no roots, a storm may take you away. We must be well grounded in the truth. I do agree that it is easy to only focus on one or the other.

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