I’m well aware, I folllwed the story for a while. The researchers claim that there was material on the hard drive was largely just people on 4chan AFAIK. Speculation still means nothing without evidence.
People seem to draw “pizzagate,” a failed conspiracy, to mean the same as “there are pedophiles” when in reality that whole story of pizzagate itself was pretty dumb
Hard evidence of that kind is kind of a hot potato since it’s essentially illegal to prove publicly. That would be easy to exploit, given the power of a widespread coverup. No published evidence doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t true, and jumping to either conclusion is telling of the agenda being driven.
You can’t assume it’s all true, and you can’t assume it’s not— that’s my point. All we have is a compromised media we can’t rely on for truth, and a compromised system of justice that we can’t rely on to enforce laws on itself. Neither party want to touch pizzagate with a ten foot pole, and it leads one to wonder why. “It’s all fake” is too dismissive of an answer, when investigations into the matter clearly have not been conducted.
If I were to take that advice, I would have to give equal consideration to every single hairbrained idea someone pitched to me. I’d have to assume that the Loch Ness monster is real, that some random afghani hijackers did 9/11, and that the earth is flat, just because someone said so.
Unless there’s actual evidence supporting the claim, I don’t really have a lot of reason to give it any consideration. It doesn’t have to come from MSM, or some verified source, but it has to come from somewhere
I'm not denying that pedophelia exists among the elite, but the whole pizza handkerchief story was even dumber. It was a weird email that doesn't really mean anything. I've texted about pizza hundreds of times, some of them might be some weird context that wouldn't make sense to any outside reader.
So in one post you claim you've seen two hour videos, and in another you say no one can find the evidence?
It was a good few years ago now, and many contributors backed out. A lot of stuff that was found before we transitioned to Voat was removed / not properly archived, and my old hard drive that I had everything from that time backed up on got knocked off a shelf in my closet.
Does that mean it was all just a fever dream? No.
But I don't know from viewing your history that you are even really arguing anything in good faith anyway.
You don't even have quite ten pages of comments in a full year and a half, and your first comment here was only 7 months ago as a handshake.
One of your first posts was even advocating for shutting down the flat Earther bullshit by use of a ministry of truth like apparatus.
I'm not sure you're as invested as you try to portray. I don't think you'd spend two hours trying to understand something like Pizza Gate.
We'll agree to go different directions I think. Enjoy your day.
So in one post you claim you've seen two hour videos, and in another you say no one can find the evidence?
Yes. I explain that the "evidence" in these two hour videos aren't really evidence as much as it's "isn't this weird? What if it's bc of satan??? Wouldn't that be crazy?"
my old hard drive that I had everything from that time backed up on got knocked off a shelf in my closet.
Hm, how convenient. Now if I were crazy, I could call a conspiracy theory here that someone purposefully knocked it off the shelf. Would that be reasonable? Or do sometimes accidents happen?
You don't even have quite ten pages of comments in a full year and a half, and your first comment here was only 7 months ago as a handshake.
Yes. I have had many usernames on many sites over many years. I wasn't born when this account was created. I knew about pizzagate the moment that first handkerchief email was tossed around, and have been following along ever since.
I'm happy to have a normal discussion with you about it, not to prove anything, not to try and fight with you on any claims, bc at the end of the day neither of us have any hard evidence, but I'm interested at least in discussing further if you truly think that there is something I've missed.
Or, like most people I talk to, you seem to just want to call out me not automatically believing you and peace out. That's in part why people don't take the claims seriously.
I’m well aware, I folllwed the story for a while. The researchers claim that there was material on the hard drive was largely just people on 4chan AFAIK. Speculation still means nothing without evidence.
People seem to draw “pizzagate,” a failed conspiracy, to mean the same as “there are pedophiles” when in reality that whole story of pizzagate itself was pretty dumb
Hard evidence of that kind is kind of a hot potato since it’s essentially illegal to prove publicly. That would be easy to exploit, given the power of a widespread coverup. No published evidence doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t true, and jumping to either conclusion is telling of the agenda being driven.
Okay well without evidence I don’t know how I can just assume that it’s true
You can’t assume it’s all true, and you can’t assume it’s not— that’s my point. All we have is a compromised media we can’t rely on for truth, and a compromised system of justice that we can’t rely on to enforce laws on itself. Neither party want to touch pizzagate with a ten foot pole, and it leads one to wonder why. “It’s all fake” is too dismissive of an answer, when investigations into the matter clearly have not been conducted.
If I were to take that advice, I would have to give equal consideration to every single hairbrained idea someone pitched to me. I’d have to assume that the Loch Ness monster is real, that some random afghani hijackers did 9/11, and that the earth is flat, just because someone said so.
Unless there’s actual evidence supporting the claim, I don’t really have a lot of reason to give it any consideration. It doesn’t have to come from MSM, or some verified source, but it has to come from somewhere
Except you're not well aware, since you referred to Comet as being the origin point.
There were heaps of evidence. Just because the media brainwashed you didn't mean shit.
That nobody seems to have or be able to find.
I'm not denying that pedophelia exists among the elite, but the whole pizza handkerchief story was even dumber. It was a weird email that doesn't really mean anything. I've texted about pizza hundreds of times, some of them might be some weird context that wouldn't make sense to any outside reader.
So in one post you claim you've seen two hour videos, and in another you say no one can find the evidence?
It was a good few years ago now, and many contributors backed out. A lot of stuff that was found before we transitioned to Voat was removed / not properly archived, and my old hard drive that I had everything from that time backed up on got knocked off a shelf in my closet.
Does that mean it was all just a fever dream? No.
But I don't know from viewing your history that you are even really arguing anything in good faith anyway.
You don't even have quite ten pages of comments in a full year and a half, and your first comment here was only 7 months ago as a handshake.
One of your first posts was even advocating for shutting down the flat Earther bullshit by use of a ministry of truth like apparatus.
I'm not sure you're as invested as you try to portray. I don't think you'd spend two hours trying to understand something like Pizza Gate.
We'll agree to go different directions I think. Enjoy your day.
Yes. I explain that the "evidence" in these two hour videos aren't really evidence as much as it's "isn't this weird? What if it's bc of satan??? Wouldn't that be crazy?"
Hm, how convenient. Now if I were crazy, I could call a conspiracy theory here that someone purposefully knocked it off the shelf. Would that be reasonable? Or do sometimes accidents happen?
Yes. I have had many usernames on many sites over many years. I wasn't born when this account was created. I knew about pizzagate the moment that first handkerchief email was tossed around, and have been following along ever since.
I'm happy to have a normal discussion with you about it, not to prove anything, not to try and fight with you on any claims, bc at the end of the day neither of us have any hard evidence, but I'm interested at least in discussing further if you truly think that there is something I've missed.
Or, like most people I talk to, you seem to just want to call out me not automatically believing you and peace out. That's in part why people don't take the claims seriously.