I've heard some refer to that pad as the "manpon". It's hard to find these days but there's an old video of some soy dude firing one shot from an AR-15 (which anyone familiar knows has very little recoil) and he screams and clutches his shoulder like he had just dislocated it. Contrast my wife who fired one shot (she had to be coaxed into trying it) and responded by asking for a full mag afterwards.
Try firing a Winchester 1886 with a 300-grain hollowpoint .45-70 Government round (1900 fps). Nearly broke my collarbone. I love it when the nitwits like to say that an AR-15 fires "powerful" ammunition.
Need more muscle on your shoulder and brace it better. 45-70 300 gr is comparable recoil to 12ga 1oz slug and firing several from my bullpup doesn't even bruise me. And nobody said AR-15 is powerful, I explicitly said it has little recoil but the soy dude in the video started crying like it had somehow hurt him.
The 405-grain solid lead bullet at 1200 fps is hard but tolerable. I ran out the numbers and it appears that there is so much more energy in the 300-grain that I think they loaded it hotter. Probably a good idea not to shoot it any more in the 1886. The momentum is very high. Much worse than a .30-'06. I won't argue over needing more muscle on my shoulder!
I was only making reference to the fact that the LIBERAL MEDIA has ALWAYS characterized the 5.56 mm round as being "powerful." Which is ludicrous, compared to long-accepted military and hunting rounds, which have been interchangeable up to World War II. (The .45-70 Government is called "Government" for the reason that it was specified as a military round. Elsewhere, it was used to take down bison and bear. Maybe moose. Brutal against deer. Even in a ballistic vest, I wouldn't want one coming at me.)
I've heard some refer to that pad as the "manpon". It's hard to find these days but there's an old video of some soy dude firing one shot from an AR-15 (which anyone familiar knows has very little recoil) and he screams and clutches his shoulder like he had just dislocated it. Contrast my wife who fired one shot (she had to be coaxed into trying it) and responded by asking for a full mag afterwards.
Try firing a Winchester 1886 with a 300-grain hollowpoint .45-70 Government round (1900 fps). Nearly broke my collarbone. I love it when the nitwits like to say that an AR-15 fires "powerful" ammunition.
Need more muscle on your shoulder and brace it better. 45-70 300 gr is comparable recoil to 12ga 1oz slug and firing several from my bullpup doesn't even bruise me. And nobody said AR-15 is powerful, I explicitly said it has little recoil but the soy dude in the video started crying like it had somehow hurt him.
The 405-grain solid lead bullet at 1200 fps is hard but tolerable. I ran out the numbers and it appears that there is so much more energy in the 300-grain that I think they loaded it hotter. Probably a good idea not to shoot it any more in the 1886. The momentum is very high. Much worse than a .30-'06. I won't argue over needing more muscle on my shoulder!
I was only making reference to the fact that the LIBERAL MEDIA has ALWAYS characterized the 5.56 mm round as being "powerful." Which is ludicrous, compared to long-accepted military and hunting rounds, which have been interchangeable up to World War II. (The .45-70 Government is called "Government" for the reason that it was specified as a military round. Elsewhere, it was used to take down bison and bear. Maybe moose. Brutal against deer. Even in a ballistic vest, I wouldn't want one coming at me.)