Normies have zero clue that the US and UK actually attacked Russia with long range missiles. Ukraine is incapable of targeting long range without the help of the US and UK systems. But they will see that Russia "attacked" Ukraine with ICBM's and eat up the narrative that they're given.
In 1983 I was stationed in West (as it was then) Germany and deployed on a CPX (Command Post Exercise) called 'Able Archer'.
A the time, it definitely seemed different to every other exercise I'd been on, for example, my detachment was deployed to Hamlin (Hameln) where I'd never been before.
What I didn't have a clue about until a few years ago was that, apparently, the exercise brought us closer to WWIII than at any time since the Cuban missile crisis.
The reason for this was that the Warsaw Pact were monitoring radio communications and missile movements which led them to firmly believe that NATO were about to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the Pact and were ready to 'press the button' first.
The only thing that prevented a disaster were back-channel communications nipping it the bud and resulting in a premature 'endex' which was great for us - straight to the nearest bratty waggon!
Trump has the football. We are under devolution with the Combatant Commanders controlling key areas. Trump, Putin and Xi are working together to end the endless.
So, in my estimation, we were nowhere close to nuclear annihilation and this entire narrative is to bring normies to their individual precipice.
Wow. From potential carbon outline to a relaxing stretch. The number of times we dance with death unknowingly. Gave me goosebumps thinking about how close we ALL came that day. Great historical front row seat but aren’t you glad you had no idea at the time?
I can only imagine that if myself and the rest of my detachment had somehow been aware of what was being thought, discussed and planned on the other side of the Iron Curtain we would have been absolutely bricking it.
This whole thing is a mess, and our comprised leaders started it by pushing lines on the agreements we made decades ago. Russia has been quite amiable till now. Gorbachev let slide, Putin is done moving the goal posts.
Personally, I think that Putin is almost at the point where he will come under overwhelming pressure from the likes of Dmitry Medvedev, along with other hard liners, and will feel he has no choice but to act decisively against Ukraine and NATO.
I believe some red phones were used prior to the launch.
I expect you are correct fren.
My understanding is that there are still comms between the USA/NATO and Russia, at an Intelligence level.
My condolences to the good people of England who have to put up with Ellen Degenerate's invasion.
Oh man! I didn’t even think about that. It’s kinda like every man for himself now.
Normies have zero clue that the US and UK actually attacked Russia with long range missiles. Ukraine is incapable of targeting long range without the help of the US and UK systems. But they will see that Russia "attacked" Ukraine with ICBM's and eat up the narrative that they're given.
I expect we'll find out in 20-30 years.
In 1983 I was stationed in West (as it was then) Germany and deployed on a CPX (Command Post Exercise) called 'Able Archer'.
A the time, it definitely seemed different to every other exercise I'd been on, for example, my detachment was deployed to Hamlin (Hameln) where I'd never been before.
What I didn't have a clue about until a few years ago was that, apparently, the exercise brought us closer to WWIII than at any time since the Cuban missile crisis.
The reason for this was that the Warsaw Pact were monitoring radio communications and missile movements which led them to firmly believe that NATO were about to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the Pact and were ready to 'press the button' first.
The only thing that prevented a disaster were back-channel communications nipping it the bud and resulting in a premature 'endex' which was great for us - straight to the nearest bratty waggon!
Trump has the football. We are under devolution with the Combatant Commanders controlling key areas. Trump, Putin and Xi are working together to end the endless.
So, in my estimation, we were nowhere close to nuclear annihilation and this entire narrative is to bring normies to their individual precipice.
+1 from me
Wow. From potential carbon outline to a relaxing stretch. The number of times we dance with death unknowingly. Gave me goosebumps thinking about how close we ALL came that day. Great historical front row seat but aren’t you glad you had no idea at the time?
I can only imagine that if myself and the rest of my detachment had somehow been aware of what was being thought, discussed and planned on the other side of the Iron Curtain we would have been absolutely bricking it.
Right !!!! Sometimes ignorance really is bliss
Putin wants control of the Ukraine. He won’t totally destroy it to achieve this.
This whole thing is a mess, and our comprised leaders started it by pushing lines on the agreements we made decades ago. Russia has been quite amiable till now. Gorbachev let slide, Putin is done moving the goal posts.
Agreed.
Personally, I think that Putin is almost at the point where he will come under overwhelming pressure from the likes of Dmitry Medvedev, along with other hard liners, and will feel he has no choice but to act decisively against Ukraine and NATO.