Jesus claiming to be "the way, the truth, and the life" and stating that no one can deliver anyone out of his hand implies he is asserting divine authority and power, equivalent to claiming he is God.
The above parallels Old Testament where God asserts sovereignty. In Deuteronomy 32:39, God declares, "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand." Similarly, in Isaiah 43:13, God states, "Indeed before the day was, I am He; And there is no one who can deliver out of My hand; I work, and who will reverse it?"
So, God says noone can deliver out of his hand in yet Jesus claims the same. So either God can not deliver out of Jesus's hand, Jesus is lying, or he is claiming to be God.
This is why I have issue with the image. "Jesus never said make me your lord and savior" if Jesus claims to be God, and claims that his body and blood will be used for the forgiveness of sin, makes him our lord, and his act makes him our savior.
Yeah, u/Oldpatriot is using this image probably to focus on the individualism of "make me" rather than the total submission of "Lord and Savior". Jesus did say "Follow me" and give other imperatives that can imply individual action, but our action is always enabled by and submissive to his; he says "Buy gold of me" but then "If any man open the door" etc. He certainly said "After this manner therefore pray ye", but not with a "sinner's prayer", for which he recommended just "God be merciful to me a sinner".
Jesus claiming to be "the way, the truth, and the life" and stating that no one can deliver anyone out of his hand implies he is asserting divine authority and power, equivalent to claiming he is God.
The above parallels Old Testament where God asserts sovereignty. In Deuteronomy 32:39, God declares, "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand." Similarly, in Isaiah 43:13, God states, "Indeed before the day was, I am He; And there is no one who can deliver out of My hand; I work, and who will reverse it?"
So, God says noone can deliver out of his hand in yet Jesus claims the same. So either God can not deliver out of Jesus's hand, Jesus is lying, or he is claiming to be God.
This is why I have issue with the image. "Jesus never said make me your lord and savior" if Jesus claims to be God, and claims that his body and blood will be used for the forgiveness of sin, makes him our lord, and his act makes him our savior.
Yeah, u/Oldpatriot is using this image probably to focus on the individualism of "make me" rather than the total submission of "Lord and Savior". Jesus did say "Follow me" and give other imperatives that can imply individual action, but our action is always enabled by and submissive to his; he says "Buy gold of me" but then "If any man open the door" etc. He certainly said "After this manner therefore pray ye", but not with a "sinner's prayer", for which he recommended just "God be merciful to me a sinner".
That makes more sense.