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American citizens, in their own country, SHOULD NOT have to compete with the entire world for jobs in America... please DOWN VOTE if you disagree and then tell us why. (media.greatawakening.win) The Division Of Labor
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– ToxicLibertyism -2 points 6 months ago +6 / -8

Your position is too one dimensional, and lacks nuance.

To give an example: Why should an American employer be forced to select an employee simply based on their nationality; why should that employer be denied an opportunity to hire a preferable candidate from a foreign country?

Personally, if I were looking to hire, and my American options consisted a bunch of US college educated, leftwing, libtard, dweebs, or a based foreigner- even with less credential's, I want the foreigner for my employee.

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– tstr 13 points 6 months ago +14 / -1

That's globalism and I am opposed to globalism. If US companies want to hire from the global pool of talent, they should have to pay. Like a tariff on goods but for labor. That money can go to fund unemployment because you are giving jobs away to foreigners.

Either we want a country or we don't. If we are unwilling to hire Americans because they are "dweebs" or whatever then you don't want a country.

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– AmericansFirstAlways 5 points 6 months ago +7 / -2

Yes! Thank you!

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– escapefromearth 9 points 6 months ago +9 / -0

If your business is in American you should hire Americans. Want to higher anyone else? Move your business to that country. Sorry but the country belongs to Americans, not corporations.

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– AmericansFirstAlways 4 points 6 months ago +6 / -2

Don't apologize for advocating for Americans! Never apologize! We are and have been taken for suckers for far too long! Every ethnicity coming here openly, unabashedly, and shamelessly advocate to bring more of their own people here. And Americans get shoved to the side or used as tax cash cows to the breeding foreigners. It's time to fight even if it means fighting Trump on this issue!

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– ToxicLibertyism -1 points 6 months ago +1 / -2

A country without liberty for all of its citizens is not America at all. I fully support incentivizing employers to hire Americans. However, the opening post asserts that American citizens need to be denied the opportunity to seek better employees solely based on national origin. It is a flawed argument.

Using the flawed logic applied in the opening post, American citizens should also be denied the opportunity to seek employment in foreign countries. Why should America allow its talented citizen employees to work in foreign nations, for foreign companies? That sword cuts both directions.

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– attercop 3 points 6 months ago +3 / -0

But American citizens ARE denied opportunities to seek employment in other countries. Unlike with our country that lets the entire wold work here, if any of us want to work in say, Sweden or the UK, we will have to jump through hoops by comparison. We are not remotely on equal footing here. THIS is the root issue. Same reason why you can’t truly have free trade with the world if your businesses have to respect labor laws and pay taxes that don’t apply in other countries. Our businesses cannot compete with overseas businesses that use slave labor and have zero tariffs levied on them. They will either go out of business, relocate overseas, contract overseas, or use foreign laborers whether legally or illegally here. We all need to be on the same footing here, but we aren’t. Until then, we need to protect BOTH our businesses and our labor pool.

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– ToxicLibertyism 1 point 6 months ago +1 / -0

Our businesses cannot compete with overseas businesses that use slave labor and have zero tariffs levied on them...

I agree with your statement and, I am strongly supportive of protectionist laws. However, I do not view importing quality, legal foreign workers to be in conflict with promoting a strong America, particularly if there are incentives for US businesses to endeavor to hire more American workers.

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– AmateurExpert 4 points 6 months ago +4 / -0

Build the candidate you want.

Find one with good character and ability, and train or have them trained in the thing you need.

“Apprenticeship/internship”.

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– ToxicLibertyism -1 points 6 months ago +2 / -3

It's a free country, hire who you want bro. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A8oEDQEDxYw
You are free to waste your time, money, and energy "building candidates," and making those loons your "apprentice," if you think that's what you really want.

But personally, I'll gladly take based Pedro, and Pima, regardless of their nationality, even if they cost more to hire. Bonus points if they also aspire to becoming legal American citizens.

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– AmateurExpert 5 points 6 months ago +5 / -0

Not my downdoot, though I’m tempted.

There needs to be some sort of mechanic to incentivize us to keep our resources - material and people - internal to the country.

Like any household or business, the more you can keep in-house, the better, and the more you put things outside your household or business, the more dependent you are, the more it costs you, and eventually, you turn to what we are now - not a country or a nation, a people with a shared identity and common interests, just a damned economic zone.

If we truly need to export wealth and bypass our own people to get some skill set here, it needs to be made more expensive to ensure it’s truly necessary.

You may not work in a field that competes with the whole world, but a lot of Americans do, and that number is going up. It would be nice if it could go down by some degree, if only because a lot of the rest of the world uses slave labor, and a lot of them are loyal to their own people, whether we are loyal to ours or not.

…And if you aren’t loyal to Americans, why should they be loyal to you? There’s no loyalty now and that’s been caused by a lot of people. Societal trust has a lot of repairing to be done.

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– ToxicLibertyism 2 points 6 months ago +2 / -0

There needs to be some sort of mechanic to incentivize us to keep our resources - material and people - internal to the country.

Yes. I completely agree with this. But, flat out denying Americans the choice to hire foreigners is not the solution, as the original post asserts.

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... continue reading thread?
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– boataholic 3 points 6 months ago +3 / -0

Same reason we shouldn't allow a company to select a product from a foreign country without a tariff when there are competing American products..

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– HenryTheRed 2 points 6 months ago +2 / -0

I have had interviews where there he held a hand over his face and someone else was doing the interview.

We would conduct 100+ interviews to find no one that could FizzBuzz.

But since we already had a contract with that company. They would hire people at really low wages or maybe not all? They would then spend months training those guys up ... to pass an interview barely... then get on the job experience.

Americans are not being called in for job interview... it is a replacement not a back fill. Like abortion something like 'rare and infrequent and only for the first few weeks'. Now the doctors can set the baby in another room so it can be comparable while it dies.

You should also read up ... reach out to some tech workers... go to reddit and look up some stories.

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– ToxicLibertyism 0 points 6 months ago +2 / -2

Companies exploiting foreign labor and, undercutting American workers is a huge problem for America. But, that problem is not simply solved by the govt. banning the employment of all foreign nationals, or legal migrants, because it does not factor legitimate [foreign worker] hiring practices by US companies, and US citizens. The simple fact is that there are good, and legitimate reasons to sometimes hire foreign workers.

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