Can we talk about what the hell is going on here with RFK & MMR Vax?
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Where is this 2% coming from? I'm seeing 25% in what I'm reading.
Neither I nor any friends were ever hospitalized.
Well, I'm happy that you and your friends didn't have to be hospitalized.
Has absolutely zero to do with what the hospitalization rate was/is, but yeah, happy to know that...
25% from AI listing for current cases.
Interesting that the same percentage of cases need hospitalization now for measles that they did back in the 1960s.
(I didn't get my info from AI, though.)
Is that where you got your original 2% number from? AI?
post the reference I'm glad to be proven wrong
Why would you be glad to be proven wrong about this?
You would enjoy knowing that exponentially more people have to be hospitalized for measles than you previously thought?
If you're asking where I'm getting 25%, then that's easy.
CDC, WHO, NCIRD, JAMA, some other various government agencies.
The same place anyone looking for such statistics would look.
I'm not going to waste any time looking up any specific links for you, because that would just be a waste of my time. If you really wanted to know, you could have found plenty of info by now.
But you'll just say any source I name is lying and can't be trusted. Even though it's the same sources that RFK and people here, including you, use to get info when you think it supports your statement.
So, that's where I'm getting the 25% need hospitalization.
Where are you getting 2%? Seriously, it's an extremely easy question to answer.
Did you confuse hospitalization rates with death rates ( my theory), or are you just making things up as you go along?
You should have at least some vague idea where you're getting your information.
This is why I ask these types of questions.
God only knows how many people you've told this type of thing to, and when they go look for themselves and nothing you say comes up anywhere, there goes even more of the teensy little bit of credibility we might have.
Post which reference? The ones where you're saying that the hospitalization rate was 2%?
(I didn't get my info from AI, though.)
These references
Just answered you.
"It is estimated that, prior to the current vaccine, the reported U.S. incidence was at least 12,000 measles-related deaths each year and up to 4 million people were infected annually. Among the reported cases of measles, 8,000 were hospitalized and a thousand suffered encephalitis as a serious and often fatal complication. Up to 75% of measles deaths were of children younger than 5 years old. Prior to the 1950s, nearly all children got the measles and developed active immunity from the active disease (unless they died)."
4,000,000 infected annually. 8,000 Hospitalized Again It's 2 %
Sorry it took so long to locate my most recent source.
The 4,000,000 estimate for measles cases is pretty high.
Reported cases of measles peaked right around 1960 at around 500,000. Though obviously there would be many unreported cases, as I said earlier.
But I've never seen anything saying that there were 4,000,000 cases of measles annually, even estimating unreported cases.
That's the thing with compiling statistics. You don't just use some arbitrary number someone pulled out of their ass. You compare reported hospitalized cases to reported cases.
It's Staistics 101.
"compare reported hospitalized cases to reported cases." and leave out the vast majority of cases that are never more than annoyances.
It's epidemiology 1.
Well hell, let's just say that someone somewhere says they think 160,000,000 people were getting measles each year. That way, the percentage of people dying goes waaaaay down. 🤷♀️
Did you ever rework your math problem?
Also, you need to recheck your math. 8,000 out of 4,000,000 is not 2%.
Ok, and where exactly did that come from? It's just a copy/paste. From where?
Same place your references came from
What is 8,000/4,000,000 = ??
No, they didn't. Nothing I've been reading is claiming 4,000,000 a year were getting measles before the measles vaccine.
Just to point it out, how do you think normies are going to react when you tell them that 4,000,000 a year were getting measles before the measles vaccine was invented.
Do you think that's going to make them think the measles vaccine is a bad thing?