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PEACE IS THE PRIZE: Ukraine has agreed to a 30 day ceasefire. Incredible work by Trump team. Now if Russia agrees, Trump may have gotten cease fires in the Middle East and Europe in his first 60 days. (twitter.com) 🤜 Peace! Peace! Peace!! 🤛
posted 1 year ago by catsfive 1 year ago by catsfive +272 / -0
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– en_folkefiende 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

No one said it's a win. It's a first step toward peace, well-negotiated by Trump, Marco, and company.

You expected Ukraine to cease fire w/o getting something in return?

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– 427windsorman 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

If the cost is ignoring the Constitution as a first step, you negate any good by the act of usurping power not delegated.

You cannot Make America Great Again without having an an inviolable respect for the Constitution. POTUS only deserves our support, as long as he is not violating the limits of power delegated to him by our Constitution. This violates those limits.

The Constitution matters, and the limits of power are absolute.

For those of you who believe, I mean EARNESTLY believe POTUS is right, I challenge you to watch this video series regarding our Constitution, and the principles upon which the framers of our Constitution established our Republic. I think you might change your mind as your ignorance is cured: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp-48d_jSb4

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– en_folkefiende 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Please explain to me how brokering peace between two nations is a violation of the U.S. Constitution.

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– 427windsorman 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Brokering peace isn't. Giving American money is.

Entangling alliances are also 100% in opposition to the principles our founders established our Constitutional Republic upon. There is no power delegated to government to intervene in the affairs of other nations.

Our founders knew that the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes other functions it is usurpation and oppression.

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– en_folkefiende 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
  1. Chapter and verse, please. It's not enough to state what the founders wrote elsewhere.

Show me where in the Constitution it states that it's unconstitutional for us to help our neighbors.

  1. The law doesn't state that I enter my neighbor's burning house if I hear a screaming baby that will die unless I act. The Constitution is a great document. But it's not God.

Even if you can show me that it's somehow against the Constitution for us to help Ukraine and Russia to mend their fences? It's still better than the alternative: another world war, perhaps our last.

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– HotMustard84 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The return for them is not losing any more territory than they have already.$200+ billion is already far too much.

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– en_folkefiende 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

They kept their lives - after the war was declared over.

You're forgetting something: peacemaking is a process.

You're also forgetting that not every Ukrainian soldier is a Nazi. Some of them are as fine a human being as you or I, worthy of all dignity and respect.

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

this is a proxy war between the US and Russia

I actually think this is a proxy war between Russia and the Global Cabal, led by NATO, UK, France, EU.

The Global Cabal desperately wants the US fully involved because they need our money and military equipment.

Why else would Z run to Starmer and Macron after getting bitch slapped side to side by Trump and Vance for 20 minutes or so?

POTUS is not going to fall into the trap. Russia is not our friend, but honestly, I think all of Europe hates the US more than Russia.

POTUS holds the most important cards (Money and Military Equipment, including Starlink and satellite tech for comms with military equipment down below).

In addition, I think there are some very dark secrets held within Ukraine. In addition to massive global money laundering, there are bioweapons labs all over the country. The "off limits" Chernobyl nuclear danger zone is probably filled with massive covert and black ops.

The best outcome would be a ceasefire and the US leaving NATO.

We can always decide to ride in and save the day if Russia gets aggressive with Europe, but we should never be forced to enter war all because we are part of a corrupt organization.

The EU is like the little loudmouth friend that starts fights in the bar and then runs behind the back of the big bruiser when they push it too far. If Europe has no guarantees that the US will have its back, they will behave much more cautiously, in my opinion.

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– TinkAnon 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I agree. The elite global cabal supporting US Presidents have been involved in this war to fulfill their own interests, not mine as an American citizen. Now that President Trump is in office, he will get us out of this bankers war.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– en_folkefiende 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Hey. I'm an American. I can use whatever frigging analogy I like.

And we may be far closer to 1943 than you think. Time will tell.

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