Governments addressed the safety of the vaccine many times. You just didn’t like what they said.
You’re poor at logic, which is what I was pointing out. “The government addressed it so it’s settled”. But clearly you don’t feel that way for all issues.
The government lied about essential information during the Covid fiasco. That's not "addressing" anything.
Whatever dispute might have been between the U.S. and Israel was settled between them. There was no state of war. The evidence is that the U.S. was complicit. This is old news for me; I read an analysis article on this, decades ago, in the Journal of the Naval Institute. No one has explained a reasonable rationale for making old news a cause celebre. Other than holding a grudge against certain people.
In the same way, Israel lied about their “mistake” and the US government lied about being complicit. In your own words, that’s not really addressing or settling anything, is it?
In both scenarios, you have people who want investigations into the truth - not the official “truth” from the government - and justice. You want to frame this as anti-Semitic just like liberals framed us questioning the vaccine as “anti-Science”.
What can’t you understand about making old news controversial again?? Hello, we’re looking at the NEWLY released un-redacted JFK files showing the connection to ISRAEL. The CIA literally redacted Israel from the public. Shouldn’t we be looking at the thing they tried to cover up?? Lmao. In doing so, it behooves us to re-examine whether they are our “greatest ally”. I just gave you a perfectly reasonable reason why we’re making “old news” controversial again.
It’s like if you found out your wife has been lying to you for years and cheated on you a second time. You’re going to question “well I thought you said you ended it with so-and-so” and she’s going to pull the “that’s just old news, I don’t know why we have to make old news a cause for celebre“. And then you give some reasons why it’s perfectly reasonable to question that first “mistake” and she’s like “seems like you’re just judging me because I’m Jewish”. That’s you right now. You’re the wife.
Americans want the truth about the relationship between Israel and America, NOT the official “settled” narrative.
When the conversation opens with "the Jews," then, yes, it is anti-Semitic If the subject is re-opened to investigate the perfidy of the U.S. side, then we might learn something. It inspires the thought that someone on the U.S. side wanted an incident that could be used against Israel. But, for some reason, it didn't work. It might have to do with the fact that the LIberty was not sunk and there were a plentiful number of living witnesses. Better to hush it up.
I haven't seen any JFK connection to Israel emerging from the material, but kindly inform me what it would be. Is it more reasonable for the CIA to obscure a connection that would reveal what IT was up to? You are walking into this with a foregone conclusion.
And if it turns out that Israel is innocent of all the things you imagine, you would swallow nicely and let it go? I do not for a moment think that your side is coming from a viewpoint of objective curiosity.
The jews own the American government, and most governments around the world. Why do you think North Korea and Iran are our "enemies?" They don't have a globalist central bank. Who owns the central bank?
The conversation didn’t open with “the Jews”. The guy you replied to opened with “our greatest ally” and never once said “the Jews”. Your bias is the one being shown, clearly. You’re either purposely conflating the words or you actually believe that the word “Israel” = Jew. In either case, you’re using a logical fallacy in an attempt to make a stronger argument. If you don’t wittingly or unwittingly interpret “Israel” or “our greatest ally” as Jew, then you can’t make the anti-Semitic argument. It’s not racist to criticize or question a country, and you know this. Otherwise criticizing China is racist, criticizing Ukraine is racist, criticizing Canada is racist. And that’s just absurd liberal reasoning.
And if you’re referring to the title of this post when you type the conversation opened with “the Jews”, it’s a word for word copy of the document. The document is using the word “Jews”, not OP.
And that’s the connection I am referring to. Previously redacted material is now unredacted, and it appears that Israel and Israeli intelligence service were terms that were heavily redacted. The CIA printed on the documents “CIA has no objection to declassification and/or release of CIA information in this document. Except brackets” the words in brackets? Israel and the Israeli intelligence service. They literally covered it up. The question is why? All I know is that it was previously redacted and now it isn’t and we deserve to know why. You’re basically looking at that and saying, “nothing to see here” because you have a clear bias favouring Israel. You need to stop pretending that you have an objective view point.
You are the one walking into this with a foregone conclusion, brother. You are concluding, incorrectly, that me and the person you’re replying to are anti-Semitic which is why we’re criticizing Israel. It’s why you interpreted the words “the Jews” where there were no such words.
You are also coming to the conclusion that people who are critical of Israel would be incapable of changing their view point if Israel is innocent of all the things we imagine. That means we need to be able to have the freedom to examine whether Israel is in fact innocent, but you are the one shutting down that conversation as anti-Semitic. On one hand you say “would you change your view if you were wrong” while on the other hand saying “you can’t actually look into the matter to determine if you were wrong because it’s anti-Semitic to do so”.
Further to my point, many survivors of the USS Liberty are actually calling for an investigation into whether Israel really knew whether they were American. That is a current thing happening today. They - the actual victims - believe Israel knew as did the US government and it’s being covered up. But here you are saying “nope it’s been settled”. It clearly hasn’t. This is the same as a someone being injured from the COVID vaccine and saying “hey we need to investigate this” and liberals saying “no it’s been settled, the government said vaccines are safe”. You’re literally using liberal arguments - “it’s been settled”.
If it comes out that Epstein and Maxwell are NOT connected to Israeli intelligence but say instead Chinese intelligence then I have no problem believing otherwise. If it comes out they ARE connected to Israeli intelligence, will you acknowledge that Israel was operating against the US?
Governments addressed the safety of the vaccine many times. You just didn’t like what they said.
You’re poor at logic, which is what I was pointing out. “The government addressed it so it’s settled”. But clearly you don’t feel that way for all issues.
The government lied about essential information during the Covid fiasco. That's not "addressing" anything.
Whatever dispute might have been between the U.S. and Israel was settled between them. There was no state of war. The evidence is that the U.S. was complicit. This is old news for me; I read an analysis article on this, decades ago, in the Journal of the Naval Institute. No one has explained a reasonable rationale for making old news a cause celebre. Other than holding a grudge against certain people.
In the same way, Israel lied about their “mistake” and the US government lied about being complicit. In your own words, that’s not really addressing or settling anything, is it?
In both scenarios, you have people who want investigations into the truth - not the official “truth” from the government - and justice. You want to frame this as anti-Semitic just like liberals framed us questioning the vaccine as “anti-Science”.
What can’t you understand about making old news controversial again?? Hello, we’re looking at the NEWLY released un-redacted JFK files showing the connection to ISRAEL. The CIA literally redacted Israel from the public. Shouldn’t we be looking at the thing they tried to cover up?? Lmao. In doing so, it behooves us to re-examine whether they are our “greatest ally”. I just gave you a perfectly reasonable reason why we’re making “old news” controversial again.
It’s like if you found out your wife has been lying to you for years and cheated on you a second time. You’re going to question “well I thought you said you ended it with so-and-so” and she’s going to pull the “that’s just old news, I don’t know why we have to make old news a cause for celebre“. And then you give some reasons why it’s perfectly reasonable to question that first “mistake” and she’s like “seems like you’re just judging me because I’m Jewish”. That’s you right now. You’re the wife.
Americans want the truth about the relationship between Israel and America, NOT the official “settled” narrative.
When the conversation opens with "the Jews," then, yes, it is anti-Semitic If the subject is re-opened to investigate the perfidy of the U.S. side, then we might learn something. It inspires the thought that someone on the U.S. side wanted an incident that could be used against Israel. But, for some reason, it didn't work. It might have to do with the fact that the LIberty was not sunk and there were a plentiful number of living witnesses. Better to hush it up.
I haven't seen any JFK connection to Israel emerging from the material, but kindly inform me what it would be. Is it more reasonable for the CIA to obscure a connection that would reveal what IT was up to? You are walking into this with a foregone conclusion.
And if it turns out that Israel is innocent of all the things you imagine, you would swallow nicely and let it go? I do not for a moment think that your side is coming from a viewpoint of objective curiosity.
The jews own the American government, and most governments around the world. Why do you think North Korea and Iran are our "enemies?" They don't have a globalist central bank. Who owns the central bank?
The conversation didn’t open with “the Jews”. The guy you replied to opened with “our greatest ally” and never once said “the Jews”. Your bias is the one being shown, clearly. You’re either purposely conflating the words or you actually believe that the word “Israel” = Jew. In either case, you’re using a logical fallacy in an attempt to make a stronger argument. If you don’t wittingly or unwittingly interpret “Israel” or “our greatest ally” as Jew, then you can’t make the anti-Semitic argument. It’s not racist to criticize or question a country, and you know this. Otherwise criticizing China is racist, criticizing Ukraine is racist, criticizing Canada is racist. And that’s just absurd liberal reasoning.
And if you’re referring to the title of this post when you type the conversation opened with “the Jews”, it’s a word for word copy of the document. The document is using the word “Jews”, not OP.
And that’s the connection I am referring to. Previously redacted material is now unredacted, and it appears that Israel and Israeli intelligence service were terms that were heavily redacted. The CIA printed on the documents “CIA has no objection to declassification and/or release of CIA information in this document. Except brackets” the words in brackets? Israel and the Israeli intelligence service. They literally covered it up. The question is why? All I know is that it was previously redacted and now it isn’t and we deserve to know why. You’re basically looking at that and saying, “nothing to see here” because you have a clear bias favouring Israel. You need to stop pretending that you have an objective view point.
You are the one walking into this with a foregone conclusion, brother. You are concluding, incorrectly, that me and the person you’re replying to are anti-Semitic which is why we’re criticizing Israel. It’s why you interpreted the words “the Jews” where there were no such words.
You are also coming to the conclusion that people who are critical of Israel would be incapable of changing their view point if Israel is innocent of all the things we imagine. That means we need to be able to have the freedom to examine whether Israel is in fact innocent, but you are the one shutting down that conversation as anti-Semitic. On one hand you say “would you change your view if you were wrong” while on the other hand saying “you can’t actually look into the matter to determine if you were wrong because it’s anti-Semitic to do so”.
Further to my point, many survivors of the USS Liberty are actually calling for an investigation into whether Israel really knew whether they were American. That is a current thing happening today. They - the actual victims - believe Israel knew as did the US government and it’s being covered up. But here you are saying “nope it’s been settled”. It clearly hasn’t. This is the same as a someone being injured from the COVID vaccine and saying “hey we need to investigate this” and liberals saying “no it’s been settled, the government said vaccines are safe”. You’re literally using liberal arguments - “it’s been settled”.
If it comes out that Epstein and Maxwell are NOT connected to Israeli intelligence but say instead Chinese intelligence then I have no problem believing otherwise. If it comes out they ARE connected to Israeli intelligence, will you acknowledge that Israel was operating against the US?
Sounds like you love the government and supported the actor playing Biden.