100% correct. If you don't file you will have the IRS knocking at your door, auditing you for the past 5 years, putting leans on your home, and garnishing your wages and not a damn thing you can do. This is why they come after you so hard. Because if they didn't, the IRS would have collapsed decades ago from its illegal confiscation of our assets. This needs to be dealt with at a much higher level, and I think Trump is doing that.
If you sign a document that states you do not have tax liability, that's not evidence you believe you do have liability. Volunteering correct info if you understand the law and have no liability is perfectly law-abiding.
Yeah but. Nonfiling is not a solution for most people even though filing is not formally required (it's voluntary). If you don't volunteer, you empower the IRS to draw its own conclusions about your income (confiscation is often legal), which conclusions will generally depend upon the information returns it received that were copied to you. It's all about the info returns, if they are accurate then pay the tax, if they are inaccurate then correct them so that they won't audit you.
OP imagines that the only nexus is DC connection. This is incorrect, because working in territories or for a federal corporation are easy examples of other nexuses. Unless you locate the nexus that associates you with income tax, you won't know for sure how much you owe, and it doesn't help to listen to quick takes.
If you don't volunteer, you empower the IRS to draw its own conclusions about your income (confiscation is often legal)
Theft of property by IRS happens to filers, not non-filers.
When you sign that document as being correct and true, "under penalty of perjury," you WAIVE your rights.
Non-filers do not, and therefore IRS must take them to court, where due process can (and should) apply. Maybe they still take your property, but only after a court battle -- in which YOU do NOT provide any information that could be used against you (5th Amendment).
Joe Bannister, former IRS Special Agent (the ones who carry guns and make criminal arrests) said that when he took on a new case, the FIRST THING he did was pull all past tax returns, so HE COULD USE THAT TESTIMONY AS EVIDENCE AGAINST THE PERSON.
OP imagines that the only nexus is DC connection. This is incorrect, because working in territories or for a federal corporation are easy examples of other nexuses.
It used to be that way, but over the years, 26 USC 7701 (a)(10) has been re-defined and re-defined until today it ONLY applies to DC.
The other territories have, one-by-one, been given their own tax code so that the federal income tax (26 USC) does not apply to those territories anymore.
it doesn't help to listen to quick takes.
Agreed.
It's a deep subject that must be understood, and a 2-minute rant video does not cut it.
100% correct. If you don't file you will have the IRS knocking at your door, auditing you for the past 5 years, putting leans on your home, and garnishing your wages and not a damn thing you can do. This is why they come after you so hard. Because if they didn't, the IRS would have collapsed decades ago from its illegal confiscation of our assets. This needs to be dealt with at a much higher level, and I think Trump is doing that.
It's your signature that makes it a contract - which brings it under contract or maritime law.
First step is don't sign any tax forms.
Your signature does not bring it under "maritime law." And it is not a contract. Who is the other party signing? Nobody, so it cannot be a contract.
BUT ...
Your signature IS prima facie evidence that YOU BELIEVE ... that YOU HAVE A TAX LIABILITY ... that YOU MUST PAY.
"Voluntary compliance."
You CAN volunteer. And if you DO volunteer, then you MUST comply with the rules -- you said so yourself, under penalty of perjury.
What about UCC1-207 signing under protest etc.?
If you sign a document that states you do not have tax liability, that's not evidence you believe you do have liability. Volunteering correct info if you understand the law and have no liability is perfectly law-abiding.
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Yes, Form 4852.
But I'm not convinced it is necessary to do even that.
Have you ever noticed something:
Form 1040 requires one to sign under penalty of perjury.
Form 4852 does not.
Form 4868 does not.
Must be a reason ...
Yeah but. Nonfiling is not a solution for most people even though filing is not formally required (it's voluntary). If you don't volunteer, you empower the IRS to draw its own conclusions about your income (confiscation is often legal), which conclusions will generally depend upon the information returns it received that were copied to you. It's all about the info returns, if they are accurate then pay the tax, if they are inaccurate then correct them so that they won't audit you.
OP imagines that the only nexus is DC connection. This is incorrect, because working in territories or for a federal corporation are easy examples of other nexuses. Unless you locate the nexus that associates you with income tax, you won't know for sure how much you owe, and it doesn't help to listen to quick takes.
Theft of property by IRS happens to filers, not non-filers.
When you sign that document as being correct and true, "under penalty of perjury," you WAIVE your rights.
Non-filers do not, and therefore IRS must take them to court, where due process can (and should) apply. Maybe they still take your property, but only after a court battle -- in which YOU do NOT provide any information that could be used against you (5th Amendment).
Joe Bannister, former IRS Special Agent (the ones who carry guns and make criminal arrests) said that when he took on a new case, the FIRST THING he did was pull all past tax returns, so HE COULD USE THAT TESTIMONY AS EVIDENCE AGAINST THE PERSON.
It used to be that way, but over the years, 26 USC 7701 (a)(10) has been re-defined and re-defined until today it ONLY applies to DC.
The other territories have, one-by-one, been given their own tax code so that the federal income tax (26 USC) does not apply to those territories anymore.
Agreed.
It's a deep subject that must be understood, and a 2-minute rant video does not cut it.