The Gospels tell us Jesus was crucified on the Passover, which was the day before a High Sabbath, the First day of Unleavened Bread. Passover that year was on a Wednesday, which would mean that most likely Jesus rose at sunset on the weekly Sabbath. Thursday, Friday, Saturday (Sabbath).You cannot get 3 full days and nights between Friday and Sunday morning. Man changed the calendar so that you can not figure out exactly the year, day, or time of his death, burial, and resurrection. Fortunately your salvation does not depend upon this.
There is no biblical reason to insist on 3 full days of 24 hours. Did you read the link though? It uses the Jewish and Roman calendars, and primarily scripture references.
Also, both the Apostolic and Nicene creeds mention Jesus’ rising on the 3rd day, which certainly implies less than a full 3rd day.
I’d like to agree that our faith needn’t be tied to calendar days, however a reason getting the date right is important, is that folks opposed to Christianity will take as a premise protestant claims of passion on a day other than Friday, then proceed to show that cannot fit the facts, then from that, draw the false conclusion that therefore the whole narrative was fabricated.
One could even argue that in John's gospel it says early while it was still dark, on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb but the stone was rolled away. This means it was heckin early and she couldn't wait. We're talking like anytime between midnight and early AM I guess. So that 3rd day is definitely not a full day.
Coming back to your post because of someone else's comment on a different post had me dig a bunch of Bible verses to show all the gospels prove it's a Friday to Sunday. But one thing I came across that I don't think I saw in your article, is Jesus even says the days have 12 hours. So if Jesus died at 3pm Friday, and 12 hours is a day, then 3am Sunday would still be the beginning of the 3rd day. Can see my comment history for all the verses if you want. Just wanted to share that because you dig the same stuff as well.
By they, do you mean those who crucified Jesus? If so, you might have a point. The Jewish calendar considers Sunday the first day of the week, making Friday the 6th day.
The Church fathers saw a certain fittingness to Christ accomplishing the work of salvation on the 6th day, then resting, in a sense, on the 7th day.
“All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on a Friday (Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42; Luke23:54; John 19:42), just before a Sabbath, which was just before the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1)”
The link I posted uses Jewish and Greek sources, based on scripture and the Jewish calendar. The point of it is showing from those sources, we can pinpoint not only the day of the week, but also the month (Nissan) and the year (33 AD).
The day they pinpoint is then also converted into Gregorian April 3rd, for us modern readers.
Yes, for the April 3rd part only. As the article shows, it was in the middle of the Jewish month of Nissan, 33 AD.
Any references though to April are just to help us locate in the modern, Gregorian calendar. Any date conversions made between Julian and Gregorian do take into account the 10 day correction made in the 1500’s (one of the main reasons for switching to Gregorian was to correct the 1 day per century error in the Julian calendar, by refining the rules for determining leap years).
Correct, 10 days were skipped, in the Gregorian reform in 1500’s. The Hebrew days of the week of course did not use our English day names, however 14 Nissan was the 6th day of their week, which we modern folk call Friday.
OK ---- I'm getting conflicting sources --- So, you thought that was weird?
There was another calendar shift in September 1752 to fix a coding error
So in mid-1975, some high-level AT&T officials met with the Pope, and came to an agreement. The calendar was retroactively changed to bring September 1752 in line with UNIX reality.
Resurrection Day, If you please :) Because the first day of the week was also First Fruits of Barley, which, according to Scripture, always fell on the first day of the week, (in spite of the Pharisees ruling otherwise)
The Gospels tell us Jesus was crucified on the Passover, which was the day before a High Sabbath, the First day of Unleavened Bread. Passover that year was on a Wednesday, which would mean that most likely Jesus rose at sunset on the weekly Sabbath. Thursday, Friday, Saturday (Sabbath).You cannot get 3 full days and nights between Friday and Sunday morning. Man changed the calendar so that you can not figure out exactly the year, day, or time of his death, burial, and resurrection. Fortunately your salvation does not depend upon this.
There is no biblical reason to insist on 3 full days of 24 hours. Did you read the link though? It uses the Jewish and Roman calendars, and primarily scripture references.
Also, both the Apostolic and Nicene creeds mention Jesus’ rising on the 3rd day, which certainly implies less than a full 3rd day.
I’d like to agree that our faith needn’t be tied to calendar days, however a reason getting the date right is important, is that folks opposed to Christianity will take as a premise protestant claims of passion on a day other than Friday, then proceed to show that cannot fit the facts, then from that, draw the false conclusion that therefore the whole narrative was fabricated.
One could even argue that in John's gospel it says early while it was still dark, on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb but the stone was rolled away. This means it was heckin early and she couldn't wait. We're talking like anytime between midnight and early AM I guess. So that 3rd day is definitely not a full day.
Great point.
Coming back to your post because of someone else's comment on a different post had me dig a bunch of Bible verses to show all the gospels prove it's a Friday to Sunday. But one thing I came across that I don't think I saw in your article, is Jesus even says the days have 12 hours. So if Jesus died at 3pm Friday, and 12 hours is a day, then 3am Sunday would still be the beginning of the 3rd day. Can see my comment history for all the verses if you want. Just wanted to share that because you dig the same stuff as well.
They chose Friday because it is the 6th day of the week. Six is an important number for Satanists.
By they, do you mean those who crucified Jesus? If so, you might have a point. The Jewish calendar considers Sunday the first day of the week, making Friday the 6th day.
The Church fathers saw a certain fittingness to Christ accomplishing the work of salvation on the 6th day, then resting, in a sense, on the 7th day.
The one thing arguing against this is that the sabbath was a special sabbath due to the Passover holiday.
“All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on a Friday (Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42; Luke23:54; John 19:42), just before a Sabbath, which was just before the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1)”
Julian or Gregorian?
There was a 10 day shift Julian ---> to Gregorian
The link I posted uses Jewish and Greek sources, based on scripture and the Jewish calendar. The point of it is showing from those sources, we can pinpoint not only the day of the week, but also the month (Nissan) and the year (33 AD).
The day they pinpoint is then also converted into Gregorian April 3rd, for us modern readers.
Wouldn't you have to do a 10 day shift to correct for a modern calendar?
Yes, for the April 3rd part only. As the article shows, it was in the middle of the Jewish month of Nissan, 33 AD.
Any references though to April are just to help us locate in the modern, Gregorian calendar. Any date conversions made between Julian and Gregorian do take into account the 10 day correction made in the 1500’s (one of the main reasons for switching to Gregorian was to correct the 1 day per century error in the Julian calendar, by refining the rules for determining leap years).
There are 10 days that do not exist
The week days skip from Tuesday to Saturday
Correct, 10 days were skipped, in the Gregorian reform in 1500’s. The Hebrew days of the week of course did not use our English day names, however 14 Nissan was the 6th day of their week, which we modern folk call Friday.
Can we agree that Easter Sunday is ceremonial and may not be historically accurate?
After the 10 day hop wouldn't what-was-Sunday be on a Wednesday?
Quoting Wikipedia “Thursday 4 October 1582 was followed by Friday 15 October 1582.”
OK ---- I'm getting conflicting sources --- So, you thought that was weird?
There was another calendar shift in September 1752 to fix a coding error
So in mid-1975, some high-level AT&T officials met with the Pope, and came to an agreement. The calendar was retroactively changed to bring September 1752 in line with UNIX reality.
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17903/is-cal-broken-what-happened-in-september-1752
The command "cal 9 1752" gives
If you're into some heavy reading
That was heavy. Passing Over to c/Christianity!
Resurrection Day, If you please :) Because the first day of the week was also First Fruits of Barley, which, according to Scripture, always fell on the first day of the week, (in spite of the Pharisees ruling otherwise)