First time I’ve ever been called orthodox… maybe in my life. I am neither, RCC, nor Orthodox, nor do I claim a Protestant Denomination.
For now…
Honestly, this statement set the tone for my entire reply. Not very Christian of you.
… I’ll grant you that it was (unintentionally, though I should have realized it) rude. So, apologies for that, though I’m entering into “God is a demon” as a starting point, and I’ve never had a good conversation with a gnostic/Marcion on this subject, which colored my response as well (not your fault, obviously). Will try to address the rest later.
While I was rude, by the same note you applied to me… you did move on to do exactly what I said, which isn’t precisely the best way to prove that it wouldn’t happen…
Not that it justifies my entering the discussion on a preconceived wrong foot, which is to say, a reboot is probably justified and in order for any continuance.
And you have just received an apology on the internet.
There you go, God job, you are forgiven and we can reboot. I'm been guilty of the same situation. Let's move on.
First time I’ve ever been called orthodox…
If you call something Heresy, by definition it's unorthodox. Something I strive to be. May I ask what you consider yourself then? I study all myths and religions to form my beliefs, nothing is heresy to me.
And you have just received an apology on the internet.
My First One.
I'm guessing Winn guided you here? Our thread was getting out of hand, my last reply to him took me close to three hours. Im sure he had it and was being kind by passing it on to you, I don't know? Something we might want to be aware of and try to limit responses to as short as possible. I think its better to do a bunch of short responses rather than one long response. Do you agree?
I don’t think I have energy for anything else, which is why it’s taken me days to get to this twice now 😆 And yes, I was tagged a few posts back.
May I ask what you consider yourself then?
I am a Christian who does not like there being denominations, while understanding how they got to be, and who believes the OT should still be followed, even though the penalties have been removed through fulfillment at the cross.
Where I was going with my poorly worded comment was that if you think the God of the OT (and NT) is evil, simply proving that Jesus claimed Him and was sent by Him won’t do anything to resolve the underlying issue, which is why you think He is evil.
I don’t think I have energy for anything else, which is why it’s taken me days to get to this twice now
Does that mean you concede, Jesus never claims Yhwh as his Father by name, that there is no biblical evidence for Yhwh being Jesus’ Father? Say Uncle ;)
Where I was going with my poorly worded comment was that if you think the God of the OT (and NT) is evil, simply proving that Jesus claimed Him and was sent by Him won’t do anything to resolve the underlying issue, which is why you think He is evil.
To be clear, I think OT Yhwh is evil, and Is never named in the NT. I do not think Yhwh is Jesus’ father, Jesus is human and an enlighten being, a bringer of light, all humans are capable of good and evil.
Care to provide some examples?
I'm guessing you mean, examples where Jesus is evil?
This would become a very long discussion, but in the short, I have a problem with what Jesus says in John 6, the Eucharist is a cannibalistic, blood sacrifice.
I gotta wonder what Jesus was doing in the Garden of Gethsemane, getting arrested at 4am with a naked kid. [Mark 14:52] Screaming "Im not a Pirate" [Mark 14:48]
Honestly, those two examples I have to wonder how much of the NT has been altered to fit the R.C.C. needs. I haven't squared them yet.
See my reply, the one before this one. For the evils of Yhwh.
First time I’ve ever been called orthodox… maybe in my life. I am neither, RCC, nor Orthodox, nor do I claim a Protestant Denomination.
For now…
… I’ll grant you that it was (unintentionally, though I should have realized it) rude. So, apologies for that, though I’m entering into “God is a demon” as a starting point, and I’ve never had a good conversation with a gnostic/Marcion on this subject, which colored my response as well (not your fault, obviously). Will try to address the rest later.
While I was rude, by the same note you applied to me… you did move on to do exactly what I said, which isn’t precisely the best way to prove that it wouldn’t happen…
Not that it justifies my entering the discussion on a preconceived wrong foot, which is to say, a reboot is probably justified and in order for any continuance.
And you have just received an apology on the internet.
There you go, God job, you are forgiven and we can reboot. I'm been guilty of the same situation. Let's move on.
If you call something Heresy, by definition it's unorthodox. Something I strive to be. May I ask what you consider yourself then? I study all myths and religions to form my beliefs, nothing is heresy to me.
My First One.
I'm guessing Winn guided you here? Our thread was getting out of hand, my last reply to him took me close to three hours. Im sure he had it and was being kind by passing it on to you, I don't know? Something we might want to be aware of and try to limit responses to as short as possible. I think its better to do a bunch of short responses rather than one long response. Do you agree?
I don’t think I have energy for anything else, which is why it’s taken me days to get to this twice now 😆 And yes, I was tagged a few posts back.
I am a Christian who does not like there being denominations, while understanding how they got to be, and who believes the OT should still be followed, even though the penalties have been removed through fulfillment at the cross.
Where I was going with my poorly worded comment was that if you think the God of the OT (and NT) is evil, simply proving that Jesus claimed Him and was sent by Him won’t do anything to resolve the underlying issue, which is why you think He is evil.
Care to provide some examples?
Does that mean you concede, Jesus never claims Yhwh as his Father by name, that there is no biblical evidence for Yhwh being Jesus’ Father? Say Uncle ;)
To be clear, I think OT Yhwh is evil, and Is never named in the NT. I do not think Yhwh is Jesus’ father, Jesus is human and an enlighten being, a bringer of light, all humans are capable of good and evil.
I'm guessing you mean, examples where Jesus is evil?
This would become a very long discussion, but in the short, I have a problem with what Jesus says in John 6, the Eucharist is a cannibalistic, blood sacrifice.
I gotta wonder what Jesus was doing in the Garden of Gethsemane, getting arrested at 4am with a naked kid. [Mark 14:52] Screaming "Im not a Pirate" [Mark 14:48]
Honestly, those two examples I have to wonder how much of the NT has been altered to fit the R.C.C. needs. I haven't squared them yet.
See my reply, the one before this one. For the evils of Yhwh.
Moved reply to the other thread.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19AxC4xsyn/x/c/4eSk01CNG8R