I’m sorry. You should have led with the fact that you were president of her fan club and will blame everything else under the sun for her killing a shit ton of people other than her.
I spent almost 20 years of my life in those helicopters. As a maintainer and aircrew member. The aircraft didn’t fuck up. She did. And a lot of people paid the pics for it, including children.
But even after her death, she’s still got help having responsibility roll off her like water off a duck’s back.
You haven't shown that it wasn't a physical fault in her headphones. You are running on the ASSUMPTION that she heard these messages. No evidence that she was suicidal. Very odd that this board likes to exculpate declared suicides as being victims, and yet denounces a presumed "DEI-hire" as a suicide.
I don't think she was suicidal. I think she had her head in her ass.
Story time.
Round about a million years ago I was a crewchief in an Army Blackhawk unit. We had this pilot. Stephanie was her first name.
Another one of these strong, independent, don’t-need-no-man types. Wouldn’t ever listen to shit the IPs told her. I wound up getting assigned to fly with her EVERY time, and every time she would find some new way to try to kill me before the other pilot snatched the controls from her and saved us.
She wouldn’t listen to anything they told her without getting a stank ass attitude, and claiming they were giving her shit because she’s a woman. I saw these same IPs that were handling her with kid gloves absolutely run down male pilots that made any mistakes. Good that they did, because we were potentially dealing with not just the lives of the crewmembers, but also anybody we happened to run into on the ground or in the air.
Everybody knew that if they tried to get Big Army involved, she’d screech about harassment and there would be a big investigation, and anybody BUT her would lose their wings.
After one particular almost-fucking-killed-me flight, I went to see my buddy who made the flight schedule and ask if I could just not be assigned to fly with her anymore.
He told me no, he couldn’t do that, and I said I get it, he can’t show favoritism.
He says: “No, you don’t understand. You’re the one that flies with her because everyone else already requested to never fly with her again. You’re the only one left.”
Shortly after an Afghanistan tour where my platoon was assigned to a different part of the country than her (so I didn’t fly with her overseas) we came back and I was diagnosed with MS, and got out, so in that sense, I was saved by my body shitting the bed.
I don’t really keep up with that unit anymore, but unless she decided to stop on her own accord, I cant imagine the odds didn’t finally catch up to some poor bastards that had to fly with her.
I salute the testimony. I am mindful of the Kara Hultgreen incident. I never deny that such things happen, and that the environment encourages it. I'm just taking the part of a public defender. She has no other defense. But thanks for the personal history. It inspires the flesh to crawl.
I guess the point is, I never flew with that particular lady, but I flew with one LIKE her. And her attitude is not uncommon among female pilots.
Even with pilots I knew and liked that had accidents, the knee jerk reaction among everyone at first seemed to be that there must have been some sort of equipment failure because they he guy knew his stuff. The investigation would always, without a doubt turn out to be pilot error.
I’m not saying the aircraft or equipment didn’t ever break: they were broken ALL the time. It just didn’t happen like that.
I’m sorry. You should have led with the fact that you were president of her fan club and will blame everything else under the sun for her killing a shit ton of people other than her.
I spent almost 20 years of my life in those helicopters. As a maintainer and aircrew member. The aircraft didn’t fuck up. She did. And a lot of people paid the pics for it, including children.
But even after her death, she’s still got help having responsibility roll off her like water off a duck’s back.
You haven't shown that it wasn't a physical fault in her headphones. You are running on the ASSUMPTION that she heard these messages. No evidence that she was suicidal. Very odd that this board likes to exculpate declared suicides as being victims, and yet denounces a presumed "DEI-hire" as a suicide.
I don't think she was suicidal. I think she had her head in her ass.
Story time.
Round about a million years ago I was a crewchief in an Army Blackhawk unit. We had this pilot. Stephanie was her first name. Another one of these strong, independent, don’t-need-no-man types. Wouldn’t ever listen to shit the IPs told her. I wound up getting assigned to fly with her EVERY time, and every time she would find some new way to try to kill me before the other pilot snatched the controls from her and saved us.
She wouldn’t listen to anything they told her without getting a stank ass attitude, and claiming they were giving her shit because she’s a woman. I saw these same IPs that were handling her with kid gloves absolutely run down male pilots that made any mistakes. Good that they did, because we were potentially dealing with not just the lives of the crewmembers, but also anybody we happened to run into on the ground or in the air.
Everybody knew that if they tried to get Big Army involved, she’d screech about harassment and there would be a big investigation, and anybody BUT her would lose their wings.
After one particular almost-fucking-killed-me flight, I went to see my buddy who made the flight schedule and ask if I could just not be assigned to fly with her anymore.
He told me no, he couldn’t do that, and I said I get it, he can’t show favoritism.
He says: “No, you don’t understand. You’re the one that flies with her because everyone else already requested to never fly with her again. You’re the only one left.”
Shortly after an Afghanistan tour where my platoon was assigned to a different part of the country than her (so I didn’t fly with her overseas) we came back and I was diagnosed with MS, and got out, so in that sense, I was saved by my body shitting the bed.
I don’t really keep up with that unit anymore, but unless she decided to stop on her own accord, I cant imagine the odds didn’t finally catch up to some poor bastards that had to fly with her.
I salute the testimony. I am mindful of the Kara Hultgreen incident. I never deny that such things happen, and that the environment encourages it. I'm just taking the part of a public defender. She has no other defense. But thanks for the personal history. It inspires the flesh to crawl.
I guess the point is, I never flew with that particular lady, but I flew with one LIKE her. And her attitude is not uncommon among female pilots.
Even with pilots I knew and liked that had accidents, the knee jerk reaction among everyone at first seemed to be that there must have been some sort of equipment failure because they he guy knew his stuff. The investigation would always, without a doubt turn out to be pilot error.
I’m not saying the aircraft or equipment didn’t ever break: they were broken ALL the time. It just didn’t happen like that.