So for the second time in a week, Colonel Douglas Macgregor is on Redacted absolutely slaughtering Trump about the Ukraine deal. As usual, talking up how great the Russians are. Disappointed as I liked this guy, maybe this is why he is not in the cabinet. Now saying no one gets appointed by Trump unless Israel approves.
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There’s a difference between slaughtering half-trained conscripts, and a hodgepodge of foreign fighters, led by Politicians LARPING as Officers. Who are Using Weapons far more advanced than what their doctrine was built around. Versus a professional Army. The Ukrainian Professional Army was mostly expended in the opening months of the war.
So it’s hardly indicative of what would occur with mainline NATO Forces.
And, do we need to find out?
No we do not. The point I was making was it’s not a particularly great comparison to infer what would happen in such a theoretical matchup.
OK granted. The reason I gave the Kursk example, is that there was evidence of Lots of Nationalities - arranged in language-specific battalions. It was not just the 'spent and under-trained' conscripts, as you say. There were a good number of NATO dudes there to handle the NATO gear.
Also the Ukrainians that were involved in the rear, were the Shock-troops - if you like - the ones with the 1930's ideology. But, there definitely was a quotient of fresh conscript meat, judging by PoW testimonies.
So it's a matter of degree.