This list almost seems tame compared to what I was seeing in videos ten years ago or so. Things like a white family stripped naked, tied up, hanging in a rope net with a small fire lit beneath the net as they scream in pain.
It is, They do despicable and Savage things. Only thing is the Government says its "Ordinary crime"....Ill give you one example of how savage and Uncivilized they can be.....
During this one Farm Attack/murder 'They' first overpowered the Husband and tied him up so he couldn't fight back... They then proceeded to rape his 9 yr old daughter and made him watch, when he couldn't so he closed his eyes, The Fuckers cut his eyelids off so he had to....I wont go into more detail needless to say they were all tortured and killed...."Ordinary Crime" the fuckers say....🤬
Hey Purkiss, give us a rundown on the gun laws in SA and the general legal attitude towards use of force. For instance in California you use lethal force, it is technically legal but you will probably still be charged and convicted. I know guns are legal, but how difficult are they to get and what types are allowed. Oh, and what outside influences do you suspect are involved if any, CIA, Masada, China, MI6, all of the above? for example?
Its Difficult...Here's a Rundown from Grok, Very accurate...
Its just easier this way....😉😎👍
The system is strict, emphasizing public safety and reducing gun violence, with ownership treated as a privilege, not a right. Below is a concise overview, incorporating relevant context from the query about farm killings and John Steenhuisen’s stance, as well as gun law details:
Key Provisions of South African Gun Laws
Licensing Requirements:
Eligibility: Applicants must be South African citizens or permanent residents, 21 or older, with no criminal record, history of violence, substance abuse, or mental instability.
Competency Certificate: Requires passing two exams (on the FCA and firearm proficiency) and a practical shooting test for the specific firearm type (handgun, shotgun, rifle).
Background Checks: Police conduct thorough checks, including premise inspections for safe storage (e.g., a gun safe approved by the South African Bureau of Standards).
Processing Time: License applications take up to 90 days, following improvements to the Central Firearms Registry.
Motivation: Applicants for self-defense licenses must provide a compelling written justification.
Firearm Types and Limits:
Self-Defense (Section 13): One handgun (not fully automatic) or a non-automatic shotgun, valid for 5 years.
Restricted Firearms (Section 14): One semi-automatic rifle or shotgun for self-defense, valid for 2 years.
Hunting/Sports Shooting (Section 15): Up to four firearms (handguns, non-automatic rifles/shotguns), valid for 10 years. Combined with self-defense, the total limit is four.
Dedicated Hunting/Sports Shooting (Section 16): No limit on non-automatic firearms, with proof of membership in accredited associations.
Collectors (Section 17): No limit on collectible firearms, including some prohibited ones, if approved by a collectors’ association.
Prohibited Firearms: Fully automatic firearms, certain launchers, and altered firearms (e.g., modified triggers or serial numbers) are banned for civilians.
Carrying Firearms:
Legal carry is allowed under all license types without additional permits, but firearms must be concealed (e.g., in a holster or bag) and under the owner’s control.
Open carry is prohibited except when transporting to specific locations (e.g., shooting ranges, gunsmiths).
Firearms are banned in government buildings under the Control of Access to Public Premises and Vehicles Act of 1985 and in designated Firearm-Free Zones (FFZs), like schools, enforced by law with severe penalties (up to 25 years).
Storage and Responsibilities:
Firearms must be stored in an approved safe when not in use. Negligent storage can lead to license revocation or criminal charges.
Owners face penalties for misuse, such as pointing a firearm, discharging in public, or handling while under the influence.
Lost or stolen firearms must be reported within 24 hours. Around 12,000 guns are reported lost/stolen annually.
Ammunition:
Limits vary by license type (e.g., 200 rounds per firearm for hunting).
Importing/exporting ammunition requires permits.
Renewals:
Licenses require renewal 90 days before expiry, or firearms must be surrendered or disposed of legally.
Context Relevant to Farm Killings
Gun Ownership and Farm Attacks: Farm killings, often involving violent robberies, have fueled debates about self-defense. The strict licensing process, which can take months, and limits on firearms (e.g., one handgun for self-defense) are criticized by some, including X users, as restrictive for rural farmers facing high crime rates. For instance, @John_Galt_ZA
notes the lack of a castle doctrine, meaning farmers must prove their life was in danger if they use lethal force, which complicates self-defense in remote areas.
Illegal Firearms: Over 3 million illicit firearms are estimated to circulate in South Africa, contributing to violent crimes like farm attacks. Official statistics show 12,900 arrests for illegal firearm possession from 2020-2021, highlighting the challenge of enforcement.
DA’s Stance: While John Steenhuisen’s post on January 25, 2025, focused on the Expropriation Bill, the DA’s broader platform supports responsible gun ownership for self-defense, opposing policies that disarm law-abiding citizens. The party has criticized excessive restrictions, aligning with concerns about rural security.
Enforcement and Challenges
Effectiveness: The FCA reduced gun murders by 40% from 1998-2007, but recent rises in gun deaths (up 55% since 2015) and mass shootings have renewed calls for tighter laws.
Proposed Amendments: A 2021 Firearms Control Amendment Bill proposed banning self-defense licenses, sparking backlash with over 100,000 public comments, mostly opposing it. The bill was shelved.
Criticism: Pro-gun groups like Gun Owners of South Africa (GOSA) argue the FCA unfairly targets legal owners, while groups like Gun Free South Africa (GFSA) advocate for fewer guns, citing 2.7 million legal firearms and high murder rates.
Police Issues: Over 3,400 police firearms were unaccounted for in the five years before 2022, and public trust in police is low (27% in 2021), driving demand for private firearms.
Sentiment on X
Posts reflect frustration with strict laws, particularly for self-defense in high-crime areas. For example, @HarryJeppe
calls the laws “draconian,” noting delays in licensing, while @MattChancey
highlights government moves against private security firms, which often protect farms.
Others, like @sa_crime
, emphasize secure storage to prevent firearms from entering criminal hands, relevant to farm attack concerns.
Thanks Purkiss, that helps a lot. I follow a channel on YouTube called Impact shooting. He’s a really stand up guy in my opinion, he does animal control on farms and competition long range shooting. He really doesn’t go into the politics of SA. I really don’t blame him, he has a pretty high profile channel and probably doesn’t want to make himself a target of government. I’m down right envious of his outdoor lifestyle and what I have seen from the majestic setting in SA I wouldn’t want to leave either. Best of luck to you all from all your frens in the USA.
Every time I read about these atrocities in South Africa and the Epstein stuff I question why humanity still exists.
I honestly don't understand why God created humanity knowing all of these horrible things humans would do. The pain of having to watch your entire family tortured to death before your eyes is something I could never recover from.
I searched for two of these and they seemed to have happened in small apartments, I'm confused about the focus on farms when all of South Africa is a violent shit hole.
Between April 2023 and March 2024, 5,578 women and 1,656 children were murdered across the country. This isn't a farm thing, this is a countrywide free for all where no one is getting put in jail.
If you look up the stats, more people are murdered in Florida and Texas than South Africa. SA is the size of the entire east coast of the US, and we had 40,000 homicides over that same April 23 to May 24 time period in the east coast. Most were in cities, the same as in South Africa.
Maybe we should focus on our own country before worrying about foreign countries.
This list almost seems tame compared to what I was seeing in videos ten years ago or so. Things like a white family stripped naked, tied up, hanging in a rope net with a small fire lit beneath the net as they scream in pain.
It is, They do despicable and Savage things. Only thing is the Government says its "Ordinary crime"....Ill give you one example of how savage and Uncivilized they can be..... During this one Farm Attack/murder 'They' first overpowered the Husband and tied him up so he couldn't fight back... They then proceeded to rape his 9 yr old daughter and made him watch, when he couldn't so he closed his eyes, The Fuckers cut his eyelids off so he had to....I wont go into more detail needless to say they were all tortured and killed...."Ordinary Crime" the fuckers say....🤬
There is a special place in hell for these sadists... God's Justice is ETERNAL! ⚖️🔥
Absolutely...🙏🏻⚔🙏🏻⚔
Hey Purkiss, give us a rundown on the gun laws in SA and the general legal attitude towards use of force. For instance in California you use lethal force, it is technically legal but you will probably still be charged and convicted. I know guns are legal, but how difficult are they to get and what types are allowed. Oh, and what outside influences do you suspect are involved if any, CIA, Masada, China, MI6, all of the above? for example?
Its Difficult...Here's a Rundown from Grok, Very accurate... Its just easier this way....😉😎👍
The system is strict, emphasizing public safety and reducing gun violence, with ownership treated as a privilege, not a right. Below is a concise overview, incorporating relevant context from the query about farm killings and John Steenhuisen’s stance, as well as gun law details: Key Provisions of South African Gun Laws Licensing Requirements: Eligibility: Applicants must be South African citizens or permanent residents, 21 or older, with no criminal record, history of violence, substance abuse, or mental instability.
Competency Certificate: Requires passing two exams (on the FCA and firearm proficiency) and a practical shooting test for the specific firearm type (handgun, shotgun, rifle).
Background Checks: Police conduct thorough checks, including premise inspections for safe storage (e.g., a gun safe approved by the South African Bureau of Standards).
Processing Time: License applications take up to 90 days, following improvements to the Central Firearms Registry.
Motivation: Applicants for self-defense licenses must provide a compelling written justification.
Firearm Types and Limits: Self-Defense (Section 13): One handgun (not fully automatic) or a non-automatic shotgun, valid for 5 years.
Restricted Firearms (Section 14): One semi-automatic rifle or shotgun for self-defense, valid for 2 years.
Hunting/Sports Shooting (Section 15): Up to four firearms (handguns, non-automatic rifles/shotguns), valid for 10 years. Combined with self-defense, the total limit is four.
Dedicated Hunting/Sports Shooting (Section 16): No limit on non-automatic firearms, with proof of membership in accredited associations.
Collectors (Section 17): No limit on collectible firearms, including some prohibited ones, if approved by a collectors’ association.
Prohibited Firearms: Fully automatic firearms, certain launchers, and altered firearms (e.g., modified triggers or serial numbers) are banned for civilians.
Carrying Firearms: Legal carry is allowed under all license types without additional permits, but firearms must be concealed (e.g., in a holster or bag) and under the owner’s control.
Open carry is prohibited except when transporting to specific locations (e.g., shooting ranges, gunsmiths).
Firearms are banned in government buildings under the Control of Access to Public Premises and Vehicles Act of 1985 and in designated Firearm-Free Zones (FFZs), like schools, enforced by law with severe penalties (up to 25 years).
Storage and Responsibilities: Firearms must be stored in an approved safe when not in use. Negligent storage can lead to license revocation or criminal charges.
Owners face penalties for misuse, such as pointing a firearm, discharging in public, or handling while under the influence.
Lost or stolen firearms must be reported within 24 hours. Around 12,000 guns are reported lost/stolen annually.
Ammunition: Limits vary by license type (e.g., 200 rounds per firearm for hunting).
Importing/exporting ammunition requires permits.
Renewals: Licenses require renewal 90 days before expiry, or firearms must be surrendered or disposed of legally.
Context Relevant to Farm Killings Gun Ownership and Farm Attacks: Farm killings, often involving violent robberies, have fueled debates about self-defense. The strict licensing process, which can take months, and limits on firearms (e.g., one handgun for self-defense) are criticized by some, including X users, as restrictive for rural farmers facing high crime rates. For instance, @John_Galt_ZA notes the lack of a castle doctrine, meaning farmers must prove their life was in danger if they use lethal force, which complicates self-defense in remote areas.
Illegal Firearms: Over 3 million illicit firearms are estimated to circulate in South Africa, contributing to violent crimes like farm attacks. Official statistics show 12,900 arrests for illegal firearm possession from 2020-2021, highlighting the challenge of enforcement.
DA’s Stance: While John Steenhuisen’s post on January 25, 2025, focused on the Expropriation Bill, the DA’s broader platform supports responsible gun ownership for self-defense, opposing policies that disarm law-abiding citizens. The party has criticized excessive restrictions, aligning with concerns about rural security.
Enforcement and Challenges Effectiveness: The FCA reduced gun murders by 40% from 1998-2007, but recent rises in gun deaths (up 55% since 2015) and mass shootings have renewed calls for tighter laws.
Proposed Amendments: A 2021 Firearms Control Amendment Bill proposed banning self-defense licenses, sparking backlash with over 100,000 public comments, mostly opposing it. The bill was shelved.
Criticism: Pro-gun groups like Gun Owners of South Africa (GOSA) argue the FCA unfairly targets legal owners, while groups like Gun Free South Africa (GFSA) advocate for fewer guns, citing 2.7 million legal firearms and high murder rates.
Police Issues: Over 3,400 police firearms were unaccounted for in the five years before 2022, and public trust in police is low (27% in 2021), driving demand for private firearms.
Sentiment on X Posts reflect frustration with strict laws, particularly for self-defense in high-crime areas. For example, @HarryJeppe calls the laws “draconian,” noting delays in licensing, while @MattChancey highlights government moves against private security firms, which often protect farms.
Others, like @sa_crime , emphasize secure storage to prevent firearms from entering criminal hands, relevant to farm attack concerns.
Costs Firearm: Entry-level handgun costs R9,000 ($485 USD).
Gun Safe: R900 ($48 USD).
Training/Exams: Vary, often several thousand rand.
Thanks Purkiss, that helps a lot. I follow a channel on YouTube called Impact shooting. He’s a really stand up guy in my opinion, he does animal control on farms and competition long range shooting. He really doesn’t go into the politics of SA. I really don’t blame him, he has a pretty high profile channel and probably doesn’t want to make himself a target of government. I’m down right envious of his outdoor lifestyle and what I have seen from the majestic setting in SA I wouldn’t want to leave either. Best of luck to you all from all your frens in the USA.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻⚔⚔⚔
I just shook my head at this one👉Motivation: Applicants for self-defense licenses must provide a compelling written justification.
🙄🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Every time I read about these atrocities in South Africa and the Epstein stuff I question why humanity still exists.
I honestly don't understand why God created humanity knowing all of these horrible things humans would do. The pain of having to watch your entire family tortured to death before your eyes is something I could never recover from.
The haitians were eating dogs, cats, ducks etc in Ohio either.
Can people legally own firearms?
If so, use them.
I searched for two of these and they seemed to have happened in small apartments, I'm confused about the focus on farms when all of South Africa is a violent shit hole.
Between April 2023 and March 2024, 5,578 women and 1,656 children were murdered across the country. This isn't a farm thing, this is a countrywide free for all where no one is getting put in jail.
If you look up the stats, more people are murdered in Florida and Texas than South Africa. SA is the size of the entire east coast of the US, and we had 40,000 homicides over that same April 23 to May 24 time period in the east coast. Most were in cities, the same as in South Africa.
Maybe we should focus on our own country before worrying about foreign countries.
Police reports of statistics is very poor, but 2023 Total population about 63 million.
: Total murders approximately 27,066
Murder rate about 45 per 100,000
That means more murders than deaths in Gaza.
Farm murders are about 2 - 3 times the national average and extreme violence is used.
That's less than the east coast of the US, I'm not trying to downplay it, but we have enough problems here to focus on.
Good, you concentrate on your own problems and allow President Trump to help us with ours.
BTW, the murder rate for USA is about 6 per 100 000 per year as opposed to about 75 per 100 000 per year for South African farmers.
Jamaica is 50 per 100k, what is your point?