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posted 351 days ago by magavoices 351 days ago by magavoices +33 / -0
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– kosher 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

you are giving the same study again and it lacks the genetic markers to make the claim - only genetic similarity.

Again, how would 30-60% of DNA of Ashkenaz have ties to Levant population if they were mass converted Turks?

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– UltraMagaOK 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

I don't know. Maybe they did the nasty with the traders on the Silk Road where they lived.

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– kosher 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

Fair enough, but this undermines the whole Khazar hypothethis, as the theory implies that it was a mass conversion of Turks with minimal to no Jewish ancestry!

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– UltraMagaOK 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

I don't care about 'the theory' so much as the reality. Why would 90% have a connection to the four villages if that is not where they originated from? The four villages in the study were in NE Anatolia (Turkey) which was not in Khazaria on maps. They would have migrated to Khazaria.

AI Overview A 2016 study traced the origins of Ashkenazi Jews and the Yiddish language to four villages in northeastern Turkey, near ancient trade routes, whose names may be derived from "Ashkenaz". These villages are located in the region of ancient Ashkenaz, which aligns with the area of the Greek Kingdom of Pontus. The study used Geographical Population Structure (GPS) analysis to localize the genomes of Ashkenazi Jews and found a strong connection to these specific villages.

The Villages: The four villages in question are Iskenaz (or Eskenaz), Eskenez (or Eskens), Ashanas, and Aschuz.

GPS Analysis: The study used GPS to analyze the genomes of Ashkenazi Jews, finding that a significant portion of their ancestry could be traced back to these villages. Location: These villages are situated in northeastern Turkey, along major ancient trade routes, particularly the Silk Road. Ancient Ashkenaz: The region where these villages are located is believed to be the ancient land of Ashkenaz, which is also mentioned in historical texts. Implications: This research suggests a different origin story for Ashkenazi Jews than the previously held belief of a Germanic origin. The study proposes that the ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews likely included populations from Greco-Roman and Irano-Turko-Slavic backgrounds who lived in this region. Debate and Controversy: While the study provides strong evidence, it has also sparked debate and some scholarly criticism, particularly regarding the implications for the Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry.

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– kosher 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

The 90% connection to the four villages is a hypothesis, not a proven fact. Reality requires critical examination of assumptions, and this claim lacks a specific genetic marker unique to those villages. Without such evidence, the 90% figure is speculative and unverifiable. Studies show 30-60% of Ashkenazi DNA ties to the Levant, supporting a Middle Eastern origin mixed with European ancestry. While the 90% figure might hint at a historical bottleneck, it overstates any direct link to those villages and conflicts with broader genetic evidence.

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