I think we agree, most don’t want money blindly tossed at Israel, and Pres. Trump will steer policy and action toward achieving a justoutcome. He will tease with Trump plaza and Trump beach resort Gaza, and then bomb Iran but not give Israel everything they want. Pres. Trump will rock the boat. There are black hats with power, and they might even try nuclear war if threatened.
Though Senate Majority Thune is not the White Hats leader, he’s in position because he represents a strong Christian viewpoint of Baptists, conservative presbyterians, Pentecostals and calvary chapel christians. In some conservative churches where GAW & Q has not reached yet with the message, some pastors will say that America isoutside of God’s protection and America is under God’s judgmentif America stops supporting Israel and as JohnTitor17 suggested could happen “weapons, deployed, that mimic natural disasters.”
With Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell gone the big names of “religion as seen on TV” the news media does not have targets to point fingers at and target the Christian right. Yes, Senator Thune is the Senate majority leader, and a strong # of Christians do support funding & trade with Israel.
Association of Christian Schools International, a million students in their schools. Whether they use A Beka curriculum, Bob Jones textbooks, or other, these are Israel-supporting families. Conservative homeschooling families, they are going to be more likely to want stopping of blindly funding Israel.
I've been to many churches. I've heard just about as much rhetoric about Israel as anyone.
"I support Israel" has never once been presented in the context of sending tax dollars to Israel. Typically it will be in the context of how the Jews have their own dispensation with God.
It's about spiritual matters, not about the right of Israel as a government to exist.
"I support Israel" means praying for Jews. It means having an appreciation for their religion in light of the old Testament and how what they believe overlaps Christianity.
So as you sit here shaming American pastors for "supporting Israel", it's a strawman -- they don't support Israel in that way.
Now here is where we probably part on our perspectives. There is a large group (or a small group with many accounts) of Jew haters who like to hang out on GAW, and they are completely unhinged.
I think it puts them into a conniption thinking that any Christian would pray for a Jew, or even have a positive outlook toward one.
You, for instance, are shaming American pastors as a group for supporting Israel -- and it's not because they are saying "It's ok to send our tax dollars to Israel" (because they aren't), it's because you disagree with the biblical aspects of it that I mentioned above.
Conservative homeschooling families, they are going to be more likely to want stopping of blindly funding Israel. Beka curriculum
AI Overview
Abeka's curriculum is not specifically designed to support or promote any particular political stance, including support for Israel. While Abeka materials are rooted in a Christian worldview and include biblical content, their curriculum focuses on providing a strong academic foundation within a Christian context. They aim to equip students with knowledge and skills across various subjects, encouraging a biblical worldview and preparing them for future learning and service.
So I asked AI this prompt: "summarize Bob Jones curriculum and its support of Israel"
Regarding support of Israel, the Bob Jones curriculum typically presents modern Israel in a favorable light, rooted in biblical prophecy and Christian Zionism. The curriculum often teaches that the establishment of Israel in 1948 fulfills biblical promises, encourages prayer for Israel, and highlights Israel’s role in end-times theology.
Q followers dislike Israel (the government) and Mossad for reasons that are completely different than the typical Jew hater.
We don't like them controlling our politics with kompromat. Jew haters don't like them because they don't think they should even have a right to exist as a nation. In that way, we're not the same.
Am I against Zionism? I don't want our taxpayer dollars going to Israel. I don't want their intel agencies gathering kompromat on our politicians, forcing them to act against us. I don't want them funding or controlling our media. That's where our similarities end (Q supporters and Jew haters), this is where Jew haters stop overlapping with Q supporters and start overlapping with blue-haired Palestinian-supporting dykes who are all chanting that Israel be wiped off the face of the earth. I've got no interest in that, and I'll venture to say neither do most Q supporters.
I did not realize that the way I wrote seemed aimed at pastors in a bad way.
“You, for instance, are shaming American pastors as a group for supporting Israel -- and it's not because they are saying "It's ok to send our tax dollars to Israel" (because they aren't), it's because you disagree with the biblical aspects of it that I mentioned above.”— I failed to see and understand that you accurately read what I wrotebetter than how I understood it when I wrote it.
So I agree with you that what I wrote looks aimed at pastors in a way that does not reflect many pastors views. I will edit my original comment. How I see it that a few preachers could respond does not represent how most would see things, as you pointed out.
I think you're wrong.
I think the bulk majority of Christians don't want their tax dollars blindly being thrown at Israel.
Unless you can prove otherwise, time to drop the shaming schtick.
I think we agree, most don’t want money blindly tossed at Israel, and Pres. Trump will steer policy and action toward achieving a justoutcome. He will tease with Trump plaza and Trump beach resort Gaza, and then bomb Iran but not give Israel everything they want. Pres. Trump will rock the boat. There are black hats with power, and they might even try nuclear war if threatened.
Though Senate Majority Thune is not the White Hats leader, he’s in position because he represents a strong Christian viewpoint of Baptists, conservative presbyterians, Pentecostals and calvary chapel christians. In some conservative churches where GAW & Q has not reached yet with the message, some pastors will say that America is outside of God’s protection and America is under God’s judgment if America stops supporting Israel and as JohnTitor17 suggested could happen “weapons, deployed, that mimic natural disasters.”
With Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell gone the big names of “religion as seen on TV” the news media does not have targets to point fingers at and target the Christian right. Yes, Senator Thune is the Senate majority leader, and a strong # of Christians do support funding & trade with Israel.
Association of Christian Schools International, a million students in their schools. Whether they use A Beka curriculum, Bob Jones textbooks, or other, these are Israel-supporting families. Conservative homeschooling families, they are going to be more likely to want stopping of blindly funding Israel.
My issue is shaming American preachers.
I've been to many churches. I've heard just about as much rhetoric about Israel as anyone.
"I support Israel" has never once been presented in the context of sending tax dollars to Israel. Typically it will be in the context of how the Jews have their own dispensation with God.
It's about spiritual matters, not about the right of Israel as a government to exist.
"I support Israel" means praying for Jews. It means having an appreciation for their religion in light of the old Testament and how what they believe overlaps Christianity.
So as you sit here shaming American pastors for "supporting Israel", it's a strawman -- they don't support Israel in that way.
Now here is where we probably part on our perspectives. There is a large group (or a small group with many accounts) of Jew haters who like to hang out on GAW, and they are completely unhinged.
I think it puts them into a conniption thinking that any Christian would pray for a Jew, or even have a positive outlook toward one.
You, for instance, are shaming American pastors as a group for supporting Israel -- and it's not because they are saying "It's ok to send our tax dollars to Israel" (because they aren't), it's because you disagree with the biblical aspects of it that I mentioned above.
AI Overview
So I asked AI this prompt: "summarize Bob Jones curriculum and its support of Israel"
Q followers dislike Israel (the government) and Mossad for reasons that are completely different than the typical Jew hater.
We don't like them controlling our politics with kompromat. Jew haters don't like them because they don't think they should even have a right to exist as a nation. In that way, we're not the same.
Am I against Zionism? I don't want our taxpayer dollars going to Israel. I don't want their intel agencies gathering kompromat on our politicians, forcing them to act against us. I don't want them funding or controlling our media. That's where our similarities end (Q supporters and Jew haters), this is where Jew haters stop overlapping with Q supporters and start overlapping with blue-haired Palestinian-supporting dykes who are all chanting that Israel be wiped off the face of the earth. I've got no interest in that, and I'll venture to say neither do most Q supporters.
I did not realize that the way I wrote seemed aimed at pastors in a bad way.
“You, for instance, are shaming American pastors as a group for supporting Israel -- and it's not because they are saying "It's ok to send our tax dollars to Israel" (because they aren't), it's because you disagree with the biblical aspects of it that I mentioned above.”— I failed to see and understand that you accurately read what I wrote better than how I understood it when I wrote it.
So I agree with you that what I wrote looks aimed at pastors in a way that does not reflect many pastors views. I will edit my original comment. How I see it that a few preachers could respond does not represent how most would see things, as you pointed out.