some want a tribunal, and want his entire presidency declared invalid, and as Congress has a duty to the People, they simply pass a resolution declaring that Obummer never was a legitimate president and that treaties he signed, memorandums, laws, and appointments he made were illegitimate.
theft of sovereignty — Vattel, Blackstone, John Locke
Vattel: “sovereignty belongs to the nation; rulers are delegates/trustees of that sovereignty. if a ruler uses power through fraud, foreign intervention, or against the people’s will, he is legitimate. [remedy] The people may resist or refuse obedience, other nations may withdraw recognition of a usurper.”
John Locke: [remedy] “the people have the right to revolt, abolish the government, and restore rightful authority.”
There’s no reason why Congress can’t remedy past wrongs by joint resolution & bylaws declaring that the Obummer years illegitimate decisions are completely null & void.
There’s no reason why Congress can’t remedy past wrongs by joint resolution & bylaws declaring that the Obummer years illegitimate decisions are completely null & void.
Except I don't believe they have that power. I think it would have to come from SCOTUS. Don't get me wrong - I'd love to see it. I just don't believe CONgress has that power. Besides - what would stop them from doing that to Trump the next time the demons are in charge? I'm not sure even SCOTUS could do it on it's own without court cases that rise to their level.
Now - John Locke was right. The people could do it if the military didn't stop them. Who knows what would happen at that point though.
you might have the strongest position that Congress does not have the power.
It’s not a numerator that Congress can declare a past occupant of the White House is presidency was not existent.
In contracts law, fraud, vitiates everything. Each president election is a new contract agreement for four years, and whether it is a simple matter that doesn’t need to be a numerator, or it is such a huge deal that it can’t be a power unless it is enumerated, you might have the strongest position, and I’ll agree with you on that
It is probably something that needs to be resolved at some point in the future, or any branch could try it. I'm sure there are a fair amount of rich people that would pay someone dearly to invalidate Trump.
If Obama (or Biden) ends up being invalidated due to fraud I think there will be an amendment created to lawfully outline the process in case future presidents do something similar - like the 25th amendment but with more teeth. Maybe include some stuff like some laws can be revoted on but with an equal number of dems/reps so it can't be ramrodded in by the currently-ruling party. Or make a law for a state-by-state referendum where the state legislatures vote and each state's resulting vote is counted as 1 of 50. The majority of the state votes wins.
I don't know. I just know it will be a huge cluster.
yes
some want a tribunal, and want his entire presidency declared invalid, and as Congress has a duty to the People, they simply pass a resolution declaring that Obummer never was a legitimate president and that treaties he signed, memorandums, laws, and appointments he made were illegitimate.
theft of sovereignty — Vattel, Blackstone, John Locke
Vattel: “sovereignty belongs to the nation; rulers are delegates/trustees of that sovereignty. if a ruler uses power through fraud, foreign intervention, or against the people’s will, he is legitimate. [remedy] The people may resist or refuse obedience, other nations may withdraw recognition of a usurper.”
John Locke: [remedy] “the people have the right to revolt, abolish the government, and restore rightful authority.”
There’s no reason why Congress can’t remedy past wrongs by joint resolution & bylaws declaring that the Obummer years illegitimate decisions are completely null & void.
Except I don't believe they have that power. I think it would have to come from SCOTUS. Don't get me wrong - I'd love to see it. I just don't believe CONgress has that power. Besides - what would stop them from doing that to Trump the next time the demons are in charge? I'm not sure even SCOTUS could do it on it's own without court cases that rise to their level.
Now - John Locke was right. The people could do it if the military didn't stop them. Who knows what would happen at that point though.
you might have the strongest position that Congress does not have the power.
It’s not a numerator that Congress can declare a past occupant of the White House is presidency was not existent.
In contracts law, fraud, vitiates everything. Each president election is a new contract agreement for four years, and whether it is a simple matter that doesn’t need to be a numerator, or it is such a huge deal that it can’t be a power unless it is enumerated, you might have the strongest position, and I’ll agree with you on that
It is probably something that needs to be resolved at some point in the future, or any branch could try it. I'm sure there are a fair amount of rich people that would pay someone dearly to invalidate Trump.
If Obama (or Biden) ends up being invalidated due to fraud I think there will be an amendment created to lawfully outline the process in case future presidents do something similar - like the 25th amendment but with more teeth. Maybe include some stuff like some laws can be revoted on but with an equal number of dems/reps so it can't be ramrodded in by the currently-ruling party. Or make a law for a state-by-state referendum where the state legislatures vote and each state's resulting vote is counted as 1 of 50. The majority of the state votes wins.
I don't know. I just know it will be a huge cluster.
excellent ideas for doing this in a constitutional way that would also prevent misuse of the procedure