I don't really understand the hate for windmills. The middle of America has massive wind energy potential and if we as a country want to have energy independence, isn't it a good idea to tap as many sources as possible?
It's such a passive form of energy production it seems dumb to discount it.
Tbh, the "THEY KILL THE BIRDS" argument is stupid AF. if you think birds can't see or hear a GIANT ROTATING BLADE in the middle of a field, I've got a bridge to sell you. Anyone who has spent time in nature would be able to tell you that birds are highly tuned in to their surroundings and would be able to recognize that a windmill is something to avoid.
Yes, that's why sometimes they fly right into the big picture window of a house lol. Do you live near any of these montrosities? They are way up into the air, and are ugly. If a person wants a windmill on their property, go for it. We don't need acres and acres of them.
Yes, a big picture window that doesn't move, make any noise, and reflects it's surroundings which makes it appear like more nature... It's the same as running into a wall inside a house of mirrors.
Tbh, the "THEY KILL THE BIRDS" argument is stupid AF. if you think birds can't see or hear a GIANT ROTATING BLADE in the middle of a field, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Don't hunt do you? As a 72 year old lifelong waterfowl and upland hunter I can assure you birds can see them. That's the problem, birds are drawn to the flashing of the blades. Ever hear of a Mojo-Duck. Basically it's a duck decoy on a pole with spinning wings. Another version is the Mojo-Big Blade which is simply a plain white blade that spins. Ducks and geese are drawn to them like iron filing to a magnet. To the point that they are illegal in some states. There are also versions for doves. I've hunted over them a few times but I didn't like the extra advantage they gave the hunter. I saw ducks drawn from far away fly right into the spinning wings on the decoy. It's like they are hypnotized.
Are you seriously trying to compare a duck decoy to an industrial wind turbine?
The reason those draw ducks to them (aside from the fact that they literally have a fake duck body) is because those blades are designed to mimic the size and motion of a ducks wings...
I really really really hope you don't honestly believe that because one draws ducks to it, that the other will just because they overlap in their basic mechanical descriptions.
Yes I am. And if you can't see the fact that it isn't the size it's the flash that attracts them then you are stuck on stupid. The original version is the most effective and it's just a large flat blade that spins. The blades are anywhere from 5' long to in some permanently built cases 12' long. Ever seen a duck with a 12' wingspan. And like I said earlier, if you don't shoot and scare the duck they often just fly right into the blade. Ever hear of flagging geese? Where guys stand out in a field with a large white cloth tied to a pole and they wave it back and forth in the air to bring geese in.
Waterfowl and raptors have some of the best eyesight in the animal kingdom. Their center vision is 10X and their peripheral vision is normal. They can see a grain of corn on the ground from 60 yards away. With that kind of eyesight you think a bird can't tell the size of something as large as a windmill blade? Of course they can, it's not about the size it's all about the flash.
The birds may not notice something that is far away at the moment, but the blades move much faster than they seem to move, and the birds are toast. There is nothing to hear: "Swish...whack!" So, what is the punishment for birds not noticing? Death? You are good with that. Blame the victim. (By your argument, no birds should ever collide with aircraft, but they do.)
Their power efficiency is poor (dependent on the cube of the wind speed), they do not work when the wind is low (or high), and they occasionally catch fire and self-destruct. They require backup power to compensate for when they are not providing power, so you are really buying two power supply systems instead of one. The subsonic sound from the blades has been associated with health problems and sleep loss in the surrounding community. The economics have been distorted by subsidies. They cannot be economically repaired and upon decommissioning must be parted out and buried. Shall I go on?
Quiet, unobtrusive, highly reliable power is available from nuclear energy, which has been demonized by the anti-witchcraft know-nothings.
I don't really understand the hate for windmills. The middle of America has massive wind energy potential and if we as a country want to have energy independence, isn't it a good idea to tap as many sources as possible?
It's such a passive form of energy production it seems dumb to discount it.
Tbh, the "THEY KILL THE BIRDS" argument is stupid AF. if you think birds can't see or hear a GIANT ROTATING BLADE in the middle of a field, I've got a bridge to sell you. Anyone who has spent time in nature would be able to tell you that birds are highly tuned in to their surroundings and would be able to recognize that a windmill is something to avoid.
Wind turbines will never create more energy than it takes to build them. It’s net negative. A scam as POTUS stated.
Yes, that's why sometimes they fly right into the big picture window of a house lol. Do you live near any of these montrosities? They are way up into the air, and are ugly. If a person wants a windmill on their property, go for it. We don't need acres and acres of them.
Yes, a big picture window that doesn't move, make any noise, and reflects it's surroundings which makes it appear like more nature... It's the same as running into a wall inside a house of mirrors.
Well, you just got your wings clipped in the next 2 posts. Got any more bridges to sell?
Don't hunt do you? As a 72 year old lifelong waterfowl and upland hunter I can assure you birds can see them. That's the problem, birds are drawn to the flashing of the blades. Ever hear of a Mojo-Duck. Basically it's a duck decoy on a pole with spinning wings. Another version is the Mojo-Big Blade which is simply a plain white blade that spins. Ducks and geese are drawn to them like iron filing to a magnet. To the point that they are illegal in some states. There are also versions for doves. I've hunted over them a few times but I didn't like the extra advantage they gave the hunter. I saw ducks drawn from far away fly right into the spinning wings on the decoy. It's like they are hypnotized.
Good response, and I hope the one you replied finally gets it.
Are you seriously trying to compare a duck decoy to an industrial wind turbine?
The reason those draw ducks to them (aside from the fact that they literally have a fake duck body) is because those blades are designed to mimic the size and motion of a ducks wings...
I really really really hope you don't honestly believe that because one draws ducks to it, that the other will just because they overlap in their basic mechanical descriptions.
Yes I am. And if you can't see the fact that it isn't the size it's the flash that attracts them then you are stuck on stupid. The original version is the most effective and it's just a large flat blade that spins. The blades are anywhere from 5' long to in some permanently built cases 12' long. Ever seen a duck with a 12' wingspan. And like I said earlier, if you don't shoot and scare the duck they often just fly right into the blade. Ever hear of flagging geese? Where guys stand out in a field with a large white cloth tied to a pole and they wave it back and forth in the air to bring geese in.
Waterfowl and raptors have some of the best eyesight in the animal kingdom. Their center vision is 10X and their peripheral vision is normal. They can see a grain of corn on the ground from 60 yards away. With that kind of eyesight you think a bird can't tell the size of something as large as a windmill blade? Of course they can, it's not about the size it's all about the flash.
The birds may not notice something that is far away at the moment, but the blades move much faster than they seem to move, and the birds are toast. There is nothing to hear: "Swish...whack!" So, what is the punishment for birds not noticing? Death? You are good with that. Blame the victim. (By your argument, no birds should ever collide with aircraft, but they do.)
Their power efficiency is poor (dependent on the cube of the wind speed), they do not work when the wind is low (or high), and they occasionally catch fire and self-destruct. They require backup power to compensate for when they are not providing power, so you are really buying two power supply systems instead of one. The subsonic sound from the blades has been associated with health problems and sleep loss in the surrounding community. The economics have been distorted by subsidies. They cannot be economically repaired and upon decommissioning must be parted out and buried. Shall I go on?
Quiet, unobtrusive, highly reliable power is available from nuclear energy, which has been demonized by the anti-witchcraft know-nothings.
So much good information you just gave and all true. Hope the one you responded to gets a clue. We don't need those ugly windmill farms.