Agreed. The notion that we all get beamed up without experiencing death is absurd. For the spirit to be released, the body must perish. Simple as such.
Enoch walked with God, God took him, he did not die. Elijah did not die, chariot of fire took him. When you take into consideration that there are at least 10 dimensions and we can only experience/identify 4, there are possibilities beyond our comprehension. What did Jacob see in his dream at Bethel? What did the people build at Babel and why?
You may be right. I've read (not sure where) the real evolution was the creator(God)building a body that could hold a piece of the creator (the soul). This is why we are so special
Indeed, Ive read and discussed similar thoughts to what you just espoused. Which, is an excellent segway to Christ being martyred. God placed themself into an autonomous human body in order to show the rest of humanity that they sacrificed themself for all the rest.
This belief in the rapture, also called premillennial dispensationalism or darbyism, was virtually unheard of for about 1800 years and something close to it was indeed condemned as heresy back in the third century.
So when and where did belief in the rapture actually start and how did it grow to become the prevalent view in modern Evangelical churches? I'll unpack this for you briefly:
In 1909 the first study Bible with footnotes that explained passages and had eschatological (the fancy word for views of the end times) positions was published and distributed.... With the support of the Rothschilds.
Because it was the first Bible of its kind and because of the reasonable cost and publishers (again, the Rothschild family) availability and distribution, it was widely adopted by pastors and seminaries alike. Seminary students finally had a cliff notes built into the Bible. Those students became pastors. They taught and preached this position. And so on and so on.
A couple of hundred years later and it is the prevalent position and view of the end times.... That not a single one of our founding fathers shared.
Now why would the Jewish Rothschilds want to put Israel Central to Future fulfillment of prophecy and make it important for Christians when a majority of the world was christian? Geez I don't know /s
Let's look at the result of believing in the rapture shall we?
Look at what Christians did before this belief that Christians lose down here and there's really no point in thinking and planning generations ahead. They started projects and missions that they're great great grandchildren would have to finish. Laying the foundations of churches and businesses that they might never see completed in their lifetimes. Taking Dominion over all spheres of influence from government to entertainment.
Contrast that with today where Christians that believe in the rapture sometimes get almost giddy or celebrate when they hear about wars and rumors of wars and when things get worse. They see that as a sign that it's almost time to get yeeted up into heaven.
They aren't thinking 50 plus years into the future. They aren't thinking of the world they want to leave behind for their grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
Basically they think they're on the Titanic and have a seat on a lifeboat so they're certainly not going to be polishing any brass on that sinking ship.
In my opinion the rapture is the greatest lie the devil has ever interjected into the church. It has absolutely neutered the modern Church.
God wins. Jesus's blood bought everything, from government, to entertainment, to Christmas and Toyotathon. Everything belongs to Christ.
Daniel and Revelation was talking about the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD by Rome's armies. Jesus even said this generation shall not pass till all these things take place. And not one stone was left on top of another when he came on the clouds in judgment in that localized destruction.
So what does the Bible say that's left and what is coming in the future?
The Bible tells us that as to the expanse of God's kingdom there shall be no end. Jesus seceded at the right hand of the father making all of his enemies his footstool. (That's God's favorite Bible verse and appears in scripture more than any other)
The Bible tells us that in the last days (before final judgment) it will be like in the days of Noah. I'm sure most you realize that the ark was symbolic of Christ, if not now you know. Those that were in the ark were safe from God's judgment. Those that were not (in Christ) were essentially swept off the Earth in a watery judgment. But God promises they'll never be another flood so that eliminates water as the form of the final judgment.
So what will it look like? Well...Jesus gives us a hint as a parable about the wheat and the tares (tares were weeds that looks like wheat) this parable was about believers and unbelievers. They are all together and fire is introduced and it burns away the tares while the wheat remains. Sounds like a fiery judgment but it doesn't say that the wheat is raptured away, it says the wheat remains after the fire.
This is what Christians believed for about 1800 years before how rich globalist Jewish family influenced and changed how Christians view the end times. This is what our founding fathers believed.
I'll give one of my favorite examples of what people did before they believed in the rapture:
Cologne Cathedral in Germany: construction started in 1248 and wasn’t finished until 1880 — a span of over 630 years.... While a total of 17 different wars played out, amongst other signs that modern dispensationalists would have claimed that it meant the rapture was near if that view of the end times was prevalent back then.
I tend to agree with her. The rapture sounds alittle silly with all the people being sucked up out of their Graves and all
Agreed. The notion that we all get beamed up without experiencing death is absurd. For the spirit to be released, the body must perish. Simple as such.
Enoch walked with God, God took him, he did not die. Elijah did not die, chariot of fire took him. When you take into consideration that there are at least 10 dimensions and we can only experience/identify 4, there are possibilities beyond our comprehension. What did Jacob see in his dream at Bethel? What did the people build at Babel and why?
You may be right. I've read (not sure where) the real evolution was the creator(God)building a body that could hold a piece of the creator (the soul). This is why we are so special
Indeed, Ive read and discussed similar thoughts to what you just espoused. Which, is an excellent segway to Christ being martyred. God placed themself into an autonomous human body in order to show the rest of humanity that they sacrificed themself for all the rest.
Truly amazing! Blessings to you fren.
This belief in the rapture, also called premillennial dispensationalism or darbyism, was virtually unheard of for about 1800 years and something close to it was indeed condemned as heresy back in the third century.
So when and where did belief in the rapture actually start and how did it grow to become the prevalent view in modern Evangelical churches? I'll unpack this for you briefly:
In 1909 the first study Bible with footnotes that explained passages and had eschatological (the fancy word for views of the end times) positions was published and distributed.... With the support of the Rothschilds.
Because it was the first Bible of its kind and because of the reasonable cost and publishers (again, the Rothschild family) availability and distribution, it was widely adopted by pastors and seminaries alike. Seminary students finally had a cliff notes built into the Bible. Those students became pastors. They taught and preached this position. And so on and so on.
A couple of hundred years later and it is the prevalent position and view of the end times.... That not a single one of our founding fathers shared.
Now why would the Jewish Rothschilds want to put Israel Central to Future fulfillment of prophecy and make it important for Christians when a majority of the world was christian? Geez I don't know /s
Let's look at the result of believing in the rapture shall we?
Look at what Christians did before this belief that Christians lose down here and there's really no point in thinking and planning generations ahead. They started projects and missions that they're great great grandchildren would have to finish. Laying the foundations of churches and businesses that they might never see completed in their lifetimes. Taking Dominion over all spheres of influence from government to entertainment.
Contrast that with today where Christians that believe in the rapture sometimes get almost giddy or celebrate when they hear about wars and rumors of wars and when things get worse. They see that as a sign that it's almost time to get yeeted up into heaven.
They aren't thinking 50 plus years into the future. They aren't thinking of the world they want to leave behind for their grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
Basically they think they're on the Titanic and have a seat on a lifeboat so they're certainly not going to be polishing any brass on that sinking ship.
In my opinion the rapture is the greatest lie the devil has ever interjected into the church. It has absolutely neutered the modern Church.
God wins. Jesus's blood bought everything, from government, to entertainment, to Christmas and Toyotathon. Everything belongs to Christ.
Daniel and Revelation was talking about the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD by Rome's armies. Jesus even said this generation shall not pass till all these things take place. And not one stone was left on top of another when he came on the clouds in judgment in that localized destruction.
So what does the Bible say that's left and what is coming in the future?
The Bible tells us that as to the expanse of God's kingdom there shall be no end. Jesus seceded at the right hand of the father making all of his enemies his footstool. (That's God's favorite Bible verse and appears in scripture more than any other)
The Bible tells us that in the last days (before final judgment) it will be like in the days of Noah. I'm sure most you realize that the ark was symbolic of Christ, if not now you know. Those that were in the ark were safe from God's judgment. Those that were not (in Christ) were essentially swept off the Earth in a watery judgment. But God promises they'll never be another flood so that eliminates water as the form of the final judgment.
So what will it look like? Well...Jesus gives us a hint as a parable about the wheat and the tares (tares were weeds that looks like wheat) this parable was about believers and unbelievers. They are all together and fire is introduced and it burns away the tares while the wheat remains. Sounds like a fiery judgment but it doesn't say that the wheat is raptured away, it says the wheat remains after the fire.
This is what Christians believed for about 1800 years before how rich globalist Jewish family influenced and changed how Christians view the end times. This is what our founding fathers believed.
I'll give one of my favorite examples of what people did before they believed in the rapture:
Cologne Cathedral in Germany: construction started in 1248 and wasn’t finished until 1880 — a span of over 630 years.... While a total of 17 different wars played out, amongst other signs that modern dispensationalists would have claimed that it meant the rapture was near if that view of the end times was prevalent back then.
Good points.
Makes me want to refer to The Rapture as the Great Yeeting now. Kek.
Yeah I love saying that. I'm near 50 but I found that word entirely humorous and have Incorporated it into my vocabulary.