Both of these prophecies were partially true, partially false. A lot of jobs will become redundant. Especially the low end coders and you absolutely want these jobs to become redundant. But at the same time, it will expand what we as humans can achieve and create newer, higher level jobs that focus more on human thinking, intelligence, creativity.
That’s a little misleading, don’t you think?
Yeah, it’s true new jobs will be created as others are lost, but on the Ai timeline, “at some point”, most go away.
create newer, higher level jobs that focus more on human thinking, intelligence, creativity.
How are you defining jobs in this statement? Will they exist within the traditional framework of what we currently see understand a job to be?
*a paid position of regular employment.
*a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid.
????
Personally, I don’t see 95-99% of humans collecting a check “from an employer” 20 yrs from now. When we take what you said to its logical conclusion
“the beauty of AI is that the number of different problems it can be used to solve is limitless.”
“There will always be better and better, even open source”
We end up with Ai doing just about everything and what it doesn’t do/do better will probably be that way just bc we decided it should be that way and not because it can’t do it better🤷♂️
All said,,,,, humans will work in the future, but it will be work based on the raising of the world’s consciousness. Not sure yet what that entails, but my gut is telling me it’s so..
I specifically gave you two similar examples - robotics and Internet and drew my observations from what we have actually seen. So no, not misleading because its supported by human experience.
but on the Ai timeline, “at some point”, most go away.
I have no idea what this means.
How are you defining jobs in this statement?
In 80s and 90s I would have had a hard time defining what new jobs would be created while the Internet took away tons of jobs. Because these jobs did not exist yet. Many concepts and many technologies hadnt even developed yet, even though they would develop as Internet became prevalent.
Same is true with AI. We cannot even imagine the kind of jobs that would exist in 20-30 years let alone 50-100 years.
Will they exist within the traditional framework of what we currently see understand a job to be?
I can only hazard a guess, based on history again that the kind of jobs would transcend whatever frameworks we have right now. Whatever the new jobs would be, it would allow humans to live a purposeful and independant life - whether they earn money from an employer, whether they earn money for their own ventures or whether they do something entirely different we cannot imagine right now.
Personally, I don’t see 95-99% of humans collecting a check “from an employer” 20 yrs from now.
I agree. And this is a good thing and part of human liberation. We went from 80% Americans self employed in 1800s to "working for wages" as the most common means of earning income in 1900s. The tide is going to turn back and we will all be liberated from wage slavery.
We end up with Ai doing just about everything and what it doesn’t do/do better will probably be that way just bc we decided it should be that way and not because it can’t do it better
Very valid concern. This is why I keep harping that "regulation of AI" should not put AI under monopoly of elites. It has to be accessible to everyone for ever. Even if not perfectly, atleast like what happened with Internet.
Even with all the censorship on facebook, twitter, reddit etc, we still had sites like GAW that helped us circumvent these censorship because of Internet.
Similarly, as long as everyone is able to wield the power of AI and train their own models, no one can monopolize what problems can and cannot be solved. Each is limited only by their own imagination.
All said,,,,, humans will work in the future, but it will be work based on the raising of the world’s consciousness. Not sure yet what that entails, but my gut is telling me it’s so..
but on the Ai timeline, “at some point”, most go away.
Meaning,, looking down down on a 20-50 year timeline starting from when ChatGPT was first introduced to the public you would see when humans were almost completely removed from the workforce.
It possibly could happen sooner but the amount of time needed to manufacture enough humanoids to cover those jobs and then integrate them seems like a two decade project🤷♂️. Even if it could be done I don’t think it would be a healthy scenario for humanity.
But,,,, all bets off if we’re told of an in coming cataclysmic event!
That’s a little misleading, don’t you think?
Yeah, it’s true new jobs will be created as others are lost, but on the Ai timeline, “at some point”, most go away.
How are you defining jobs in this statement? Will they exist within the traditional framework of what we currently see understand a job to be?
*a paid position of regular employment.
*a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid.
????
Personally, I don’t see 95-99% of humans collecting a check “from an employer” 20 yrs from now. When we take what you said to its logical conclusion
“the beauty of AI is that the number of different problems it can be used to solve is limitless.”
“There will always be better and better, even open source”
We end up with Ai doing just about everything and what it doesn’t do/do better will probably be that way just bc we decided it should be that way and not because it can’t do it better🤷♂️
All said,,,,, humans will work in the future, but it will be work based on the raising of the world’s consciousness. Not sure yet what that entails, but my gut is telling me it’s so..
I specifically gave you two similar examples - robotics and Internet and drew my observations from what we have actually seen. So no, not misleading because its supported by human experience.
I have no idea what this means.
In 80s and 90s I would have had a hard time defining what new jobs would be created while the Internet took away tons of jobs. Because these jobs did not exist yet. Many concepts and many technologies hadnt even developed yet, even though they would develop as Internet became prevalent.
Same is true with AI. We cannot even imagine the kind of jobs that would exist in 20-30 years let alone 50-100 years.
I can only hazard a guess, based on history again that the kind of jobs would transcend whatever frameworks we have right now. Whatever the new jobs would be, it would allow humans to live a purposeful and independant life - whether they earn money from an employer, whether they earn money for their own ventures or whether they do something entirely different we cannot imagine right now.
I agree. And this is a good thing and part of human liberation. We went from 80% Americans self employed in 1800s to "working for wages" as the most common means of earning income in 1900s. The tide is going to turn back and we will all be liberated from wage slavery.
Very valid concern. This is why I keep harping that "regulation of AI" should not put AI under monopoly of elites. It has to be accessible to everyone for ever. Even if not perfectly, atleast like what happened with Internet.
Even with all the censorship on facebook, twitter, reddit etc, we still had sites like GAW that helped us circumvent these censorship because of Internet.
Similarly, as long as everyone is able to wield the power of AI and train their own models, no one can monopolize what problems can and cannot be solved. Each is limited only by their own imagination.
In this we both agree completely.
Mind Blown.
I was for sure that last one would be the moment this place went on the attack bc that was a pretty woowoo statement 😁
*Seems to me in the end it will have all been about raising consciousness
Meaning,, looking down down on a 20-50 year timeline starting from when ChatGPT was first introduced to the public you would see when humans were almost completely removed from the workforce.
It possibly could happen sooner but the amount of time needed to manufacture enough humanoids to cover those jobs and then integrate them seems like a two decade project🤷♂️. Even if it could be done I don’t think it would be a healthy scenario for humanity.
But,,,, all bets off if we’re told of an in coming cataclysmic event!