So which is it, are the facts not relevant, or are they manipulated lies? Your claims always lean on the lazy trope of a Jewish bogeyman controlling everything. The 1947 UN Partition Plan was accepted by Jewish leaders, despite its challenges, while the Muslim Brotherhood and Arab leadership rejected it outright, launching a war against a barely armed state. Haj Amin al-Husseini’s collaboration with Nazi Germany to push anti-Jewish policies in the Middle East is documented in primary sources and my family dealt with it first hand in Iraq, and is not some fabricated narrative. If you see a Jewish conspiracy behind every fact, the problem isn’t with the facts, it’s your lens.
My point was that Israelis are experts in bullshit. That Turkey blocking them from using their Airspace was more significant than they want to admit. As one Domino falls others will follow Fren. Btw, I have a photo of Jewish refugees on ship begging for Palestinians let them safe harbor in Palestine. So basically, saving their lives, will get you Genocided..
You’re dodging the point with vague claims about “Israeli bullshit” while ignoring documented history. Turkey’s airspace decision is posturing, public statements often mask backroom deals to save face, as we’ve seen in their trade with Israel continuing despite rhetoric. The Abraham Accords, uniting Israel and Sunni states, don’t hinge on Turkey’s approval, and their exclusion reflects their own regional maneuvering, not some grand domino effect.
As for your photo of Jewish refugees “begging” for safe harbor in Palestine, who exactly was the Palestinian “leader” granting it? Palestine was a British Mandate, not a sovereign state, home to Jews, Arabs, Armenians, Christians, and others. The British, not a Palestinian authority, controlled immigration, often blocking Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution.
You're doing EXACTLY what I have pointed out. Taking some irrelevant point in the past and trying to place the whole debate there. Get lost, you're a dishonest person..
Nothing I said was dishonest, point out the lie - you made the claim that Jewish refugees were begging Palestinians for sanctuary and I asked you who these Palestinians were? I know the answer as my family were Jewish Palestinian but you also show who you are from your response and it's similar to how a feeble minded leftist would deal with facts outside their ideology - inoculated from understanding reality because of bias.
EDIT: i realized now I thought I was responding to another thread talking about Mulsim brotherhood, which is why my first response was talking about the partition plan. Either way this and my last reply is still applicable.
so this can just be a public statement to save face.
Or Israel is really good at making facts seem less relevant than they are..
So which is it, are the facts not relevant, or are they manipulated lies? Your claims always lean on the lazy trope of a Jewish bogeyman controlling everything. The 1947 UN Partition Plan was accepted by Jewish leaders, despite its challenges, while the Muslim Brotherhood and Arab leadership rejected it outright, launching a war against a barely armed state. Haj Amin al-Husseini’s collaboration with Nazi Germany to push anti-Jewish policies in the Middle East is documented in primary sources and my family dealt with it first hand in Iraq, and is not some fabricated narrative. If you see a Jewish conspiracy behind every fact, the problem isn’t with the facts, it’s your lens.
My point was that Israelis are experts in bullshit. That Turkey blocking them from using their Airspace was more significant than they want to admit. As one Domino falls others will follow Fren. Btw, I have a photo of Jewish refugees on ship begging for Palestinians let them safe harbor in Palestine. So basically, saving their lives, will get you Genocided..
You’re dodging the point with vague claims about “Israeli bullshit” while ignoring documented history. Turkey’s airspace decision is posturing, public statements often mask backroom deals to save face, as we’ve seen in their trade with Israel continuing despite rhetoric. The Abraham Accords, uniting Israel and Sunni states, don’t hinge on Turkey’s approval, and their exclusion reflects their own regional maneuvering, not some grand domino effect.
As for your photo of Jewish refugees “begging” for safe harbor in Palestine, who exactly was the Palestinian “leader” granting it? Palestine was a British Mandate, not a sovereign state, home to Jews, Arabs, Armenians, Christians, and others. The British, not a Palestinian authority, controlled immigration, often blocking Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution.
You're doing EXACTLY what I have pointed out. Taking some irrelevant point in the past and trying to place the whole debate there. Get lost, you're a dishonest person..
Nothing I said was dishonest, point out the lie - you made the claim that Jewish refugees were begging Palestinians for sanctuary and I asked you who these Palestinians were? I know the answer as my family were Jewish Palestinian but you also show who you are from your response and it's similar to how a feeble minded leftist would deal with facts outside their ideology - inoculated from understanding reality because of bias.
EDIT: i realized now I thought I was responding to another thread talking about Mulsim brotherhood, which is why my first response was talking about the partition plan. Either way this and my last reply is still applicable.
Turkey is on the radar, President Erdogan is M.B.
Looks like the brotherhood will be declared a terrorist organization soon.
Excellent if true
There is a conflict brewing between those two. They both want the same thing; the oil reserves of the ME.