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posted 260 days ago by Tetartos_Ippeas 260 days ago by Tetartos_Ippeas +225 / -0
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– SwampRangers 4 points 260 days ago +4 / -0

Good presentation on spiritual Israel. God also has national blessings and curses for Egypt, Israel, Syria (Assyria), Jordan (Edom, Moab, Ammon), and other nations, which are separate.

However, it doesn't agree with OP title. The video has nothing to do with whether any people that claims descent from Judah or Levi has been shown not to be descended from Judah or Levi. It has nothing to do with finding other tribes, though many of Manasseh have been found. I've been asking for this evidence but nobody seems to have it. They merely point to mergers via the acceptance of some of Edom and all of Khazaria, but this does not invalidate right to descent from Judah.

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– AmateurExpert 4 points 260 days ago +4 / -0

Where’d you find Manasseh?

I’ve been fond of the Dan-ish theory.

Not sure who they might be, but suspect Cherokee and Choctaw are among the (lineal) tribes as well.

100% on the Judah comment, though I strongly doubt that heritage is as widespread among those who think it’s such as they think it is.

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– SwampRangers 3 points 260 days ago +3 / -0

Bnei Menashe.

Dan has one of the closest potential etymological connections, namely to Danes, but the arguments from etymology are inconclusive despite there being many of them.

Native Americans carry many origin traditions very close to Gen. 1-11 including names for the Great Spirit that seem to relate to Yahweh. I think they are pre-Abrahamic, because getting Natives into America after Judah is about as sketchy as Mormonism.

Another video on the same subject was just posted.

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 260 days ago +2 / -0

That definitely seems plausible. I never could figure out how they would have gotten over here in the time frame that would be required.

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– SwampRangers 2 points 260 days ago +2 / -0

Just in looking things up this morning, of the many many groups counted within Judaism there is an interesting group called "Crimean Karaites": "Most Karaites in the region do not consider themselves to be Jews, associating the ethnonym with Rabbinical Jews alone, but rather consider themselves to be descendants of the Khazars, non-Rabbinical Judeans, or other Turkic peoples. Research into the origins of the Karaites indicates they are of ethnic Jewish origin and are genetically closely related to other Jewish diaspora groups."

I'd have to say that, as with the Catholics, there are all kinds of subgroups with different historicocultural identities that have cut various unique deals with the main group that benefit from the main group being defined as united. Some of these give rise to the situation, notable in all kinds of intermixed people-groups, of having the benefits of dual citizens. A true dual citizen does not shirk the responsibilities of dual citizenship either, and that's what Jews have often been criticized for (just as others are when they do this), claiming "white" as convenient and "Jewish" as convenient. The individual who does this is denying one or both heritages by denying responsibility, and so it's a criticism that can apply to many individuals, while I don't know of a historical case where a group has denied responsibility for a heritage at large while claiming the benefits of that heritage. Crimean Karaites are noted for rejecting the Talmud but still being accepted as part of Judaism, as part of their unique historical negotiation, but without getting some undeserved benefit.

Research is new every day, looking forward to your next ping.

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– SwampRangers 2 points 260 days ago +2 / -0

Thank you! We are constantly coming up with research at c/Christianity, even though it's not easy to search. When I looked at Rev. 2-3, in accord with the other harmonies there, I found seven different works of satan as hinted in my link. So when we say "it's the satanists" we have a motto that encompasses everybody no matter how their demographics are skewed.

I found it particularly interesting that one of these works, the "seat of satan" was literally the Pergamon Altar, the one that Hitler had moved to the Berlin Museum. Here is a similar altar built separately by Albert Speer for (architect) Hitler's annual rallies at Zeppelin Field, which Architecture of Doom 1989 says was specifically Pergamon-inspired. Then of course in 2008 a very similar rally in Denver at Invesco Field specifically anointed (nominated) Obama from a platform that CNN gushingly described as a Greek temple: [the comparison to the Pergamon Altar is striking. And that was one month after Obama spoke in Berlin at the Victory Column, down the street from the OG Pergamon Altar. So that's an example of satan's public messaging system.

The point being that satan has left rabbit holes everywhere and his tendency to use certain races more often as his human shields should not dissuade us from researching everything, as they're all connected! Have enjoyed your work and I just chime in when I have something, but I'm always open to more discussion.

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