USE the "SHAM" ENERGY ARGUMENT(S) THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS AND SEE WHERE THAT GETS THESE AI DATA CENTERS!!!!
NOTE THE FOLLOWING:
AI data centers currently consume about 4.4% of U.S. electricity, a figure that could triple by 2028, potentially reaching between 6.7% to 12% of total electricity generation.
By 2035, they are projected to account for 8.6% of all U.S. electricity demand, driven largely by the energy needs of AI model training.
This is what is facing these 'AI DATA CENTERS'...IT'S A BUNCH OF HOOOOOEY!!!!!!!
In major Municipalities with municipal water systems. Such as the recent case in Indianapolis.
They regularly loose more water than an AI data center could use operating at full capacity. Just due to leaky pipes and defective equipment.
Many factory farms at least. Use methods largely focused on maximizing yield. Rather than saving water and or soil health. Hence their massive consumption of fertilizer and other chemicals to stretch soil life out. Which ironically also uses excessive amounts of water.
Our infrastructure is ancient and falling apart. Power stations were never built when they should have been. Water Pipes and other Electrical systems that should have been replaced weren’t. We more or less stopped any investment in Nuclear Power. Despite it being ultimately more cheaper and plentiful than coal, oil, and natural gas alternatives.
Not to mention there’s a multitude of alternative cooling systems the data centers could use. That are more efficient with water usage but cost more. And current Corporate America’s business model is based on maximizing shareholder value and cutting every corner they can get away with to save a nickel.
I’m also reasonably certain, given both general stupidity of the population along with the state of public schools, a disturbing amount of people also truly believes that the water the data centers would feasibly use. Just permanently disappears. Instead of reenters the water cycle.
TLDR: What people are actually subsidizing wouldn’t be the resource use of the Datacenters. But rather 40-50 years of updates, upgrades, expansions, and improvements that just didn’t happen. Along with shitty corporate behavior meant to reward Wallstreet Financial bigwigs and their political puppets at everyone else’s expense. Not to mention the fear and ignorance of the general population that prevented some of the upgrades from happening.
I agree pretty much. Nuclear power is very safe, and small modularized nuclear plants could product all the power we ever need. The entire nuclear waste is dangerous was a scam to scare everyone from actually looking at what was actually be disposed of in the barrels that were thrown into the oceans.
All the data everyone posts on the internet. All the tracking data via phones. Every conversation or query via Siri and Alexa and the like. And now all the data from ChatGPT and Grok and every other AI.
Every conversation is stored somewhere. Every purchase with a card or your phone's wallet is logged. Everything you watch on a streaming service is logged. Your searches are logged. How many people have those car insurance devices so they could save 5%? Those are tracking not just where you go but how you drive. Your gaming habits are tracked and logged. The list goes on and on.
That sounds like the plot of a movie, like Enemy Of The State or some sci-fi flick where it's discovered there's a secret underground something or other that needs immense energy and the data centers are just a front.
Most of the time movies either try to make something seem too far fetched to be believable, even though it may currently be happening in real life, or they try to normalize it (think the oodles of cop shows where the good guys are constantly trampling on citizens' rights to catch the bad guy, and everyone at home goes along with it).
Donno but it's generally always smart to get out ahead of what's coming.
I think DeSantis can see what is going on in other states/areas where the lure of money being injected into an area is so alluring that local politicians sell out what in the best interest of there voters to capture those riches.
They should be run solely from existing wind and solar farms.
USE the "SHAM" ENERGY ARGUMENT(S) THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS AND SEE WHERE THAT GETS THESE AI DATA CENTERS!!!!
NOTE THE FOLLOWING: AI data centers currently consume about 4.4% of U.S. electricity, a figure that could triple by 2028, potentially reaching between 6.7% to 12% of total electricity generation.
By 2035, they are projected to account for 8.6% of all U.S. electricity demand, driven largely by the energy needs of AI model training.
This is what is facing these 'AI DATA CENTERS'...IT'S A BUNCH OF HOOOOOEY!!!!!!!
Agree. They can build their data centers in the far north.
In major Municipalities with municipal water systems. Such as the recent case in Indianapolis.
They regularly loose more water than an AI data center could use operating at full capacity. Just due to leaky pipes and defective equipment.
Many factory farms at least. Use methods largely focused on maximizing yield. Rather than saving water and or soil health. Hence their massive consumption of fertilizer and other chemicals to stretch soil life out. Which ironically also uses excessive amounts of water.
Our infrastructure is ancient and falling apart. Power stations were never built when they should have been. Water Pipes and other Electrical systems that should have been replaced weren’t. We more or less stopped any investment in Nuclear Power. Despite it being ultimately more cheaper and plentiful than coal, oil, and natural gas alternatives.
Not to mention there’s a multitude of alternative cooling systems the data centers could use. That are more efficient with water usage but cost more. And current Corporate America’s business model is based on maximizing shareholder value and cutting every corner they can get away with to save a nickel.
I’m also reasonably certain, given both general stupidity of the population along with the state of public schools, a disturbing amount of people also truly believes that the water the data centers would feasibly use. Just permanently disappears. Instead of reenters the water cycle.
TLDR: What people are actually subsidizing wouldn’t be the resource use of the Datacenters. But rather 40-50 years of updates, upgrades, expansions, and improvements that just didn’t happen. Along with shitty corporate behavior meant to reward Wallstreet Financial bigwigs and their political puppets at everyone else’s expense. Not to mention the fear and ignorance of the general population that prevented some of the upgrades from happening.
I agree pretty much. Nuclear power is very safe, and small modularized nuclear plants could product all the power we ever need. The entire nuclear waste is dangerous was a scam to scare everyone from actually looking at what was actually be disposed of in the barrels that were thrown into the oceans.
What data? Why the sudden need for huge 'data centers'?
I'm with you pal. What is all this data that needed to be processed?
All the data everyone posts on the internet. All the tracking data via phones. Every conversation or query via Siri and Alexa and the like. And now all the data from ChatGPT and Grok and every other AI.
Every conversation is stored somewhere. Every purchase with a card or your phone's wallet is logged. Everything you watch on a streaming service is logged. Your searches are logged. How many people have those car insurance devices so they could save 5%? Those are tracking not just where you go but how you drive. Your gaming habits are tracked and logged. The list goes on and on.
That sounds like the plot of a movie, like Enemy Of The State or some sci-fi flick where it's discovered there's a secret underground something or other that needs immense energy and the data centers are just a front.
Most of the time movies either try to make something seem too far fetched to be believable, even though it may currently be happening in real life, or they try to normalize it (think the oodles of cop shows where the good guys are constantly trampling on citizens' rights to catch the bad guy, and everyone at home goes along with it).
Obama said we should pay our own way years ago. Let these scum bags pay theirs!!
Massive use of EV's will also be a drain on electricity we could use for our homes and perhaps drive prices up also.
Tax the AI companies 90%. I'm sure they will find another power source.
Donno but it's generally always smart to get out ahead of what's coming.
I think DeSantis can see what is going on in other states/areas where the lure of money being injected into an area is so alluring that local politicians sell out what in the best interest of there voters to capture those riches.