HAMAS are nutters and will not accept it and even if they say they do, they will not
Hot prediction. Just curious. How much money would you bet on that?
The situation is utterly unique. One, the Cabal is no longer in control in the Middle East. Trump's unifying of the various nations involved shows this.
I tell you what this looks like to me. It looks like Trump has totally out-maneuvered the Cabal and their instruments, that he has Israel exactly where he needs them (keep your friends close, and your enemies closer), and that he has Hamas cornered.
In the same way that he destroyed ISIS, etc. To me, Saving Israel for Last means that only when everything else is cleaned out will the corrupt element behind the modern Israel state be taken out. Until then, control, control, control.
Will Hamas accept or not? I think it matters not. Yes, they get to walk away, powerless. No, they get to leave the planet the hard way.
With the coalition of nations behind him, Trump's letting loose Israel on Hamas will be seen as justified and correct. imo.
Not this time. If Hamass wants to fuck around after this fair offer, then Hamass is gonna find out what the Israeli war machine can really do when they go all in, and with the full backing of the USA.
Their best option is to end the fighting according to the rules set forth in president Trump's comprehensive peace plan. Even better if they manage to do it with grace and dignity. And, it would really be better for the entire middle east, and for a more stable planet earth.
What is the proper response to a foreign army coming in and taking pot-shots at your children and women? Any red-blooded man would soon find himself arming himself and fighting back.
Your statement seems slightly stinky - as in othering people you know nothing about, but labelling every Palistinian as such. Hamas won the most votes in an election. But no-one wants to talk about that, because Israel didn't like the result.
Yea, basically 20 years ago, with no new elections since. By that logic since we had issues with muh Osama Bin Laden we should still have Dubya as president, as well as your pick of the '04 Congress or '06 Congress.
Ain't no amount of ultraviolence on either side an excuse to keep politicians in power for practically forever.
OK, but that goes for both sides, though, And the election 20 years ago, with none since issue, is not a fault of the Palestinians - I believe the Israelis wanted the PLO to go away by funding the 'opposition', but have regretted it ever since, because Hamas rose from the ashes.
One does not even believe that Hamas is even a proven party at this point, I hear there are lots of political factions, (and Muslims, Jews, Druze and Christians BTW - the oldest churches in the Levant) because, as you say, Hamas won 20 years ago. Things change.
So... perhaps Palestinians should have an election, then we will know which way they want to go. Stop waiting for others to decide for them, as everyone is retardedly trying to do, Forcing their will, even. Claims that Israel must end Hamas - when they don't even know anything about the extent, and many believe that even a six-year old can be Hamas.
Oh, but elections won't stop the killing, they say. But, they don't even know how much support Hamas has these days. I mean, the Palistinians are starving, one tends to vote with one's belly, at that point. What if a giant throng of voters just wanted it all to go away now. And bring some food please.
Half of me, thinks that Trump-Gaza is a solution - let the Americans own this, with the help of all those Arab countries - and shame on all of them for waiting so long, leaving the protests to Yemen blockades and Iranian retaliations- the other half of me contemplates the giant trap that is Bibi, with his Machiavellian narcissism. I hear Trump is a narcissist as well, but I believe he is a White Hat so benevolent despite his charm - not Machiavellian - even if he understands those types very well.
Also, they will open Rafah and Jordanian border. I wonder...
DID anyone here see the video posted after the 2020 World Cup in Qatar. Unfortunately I have lost it BUT I know what me and my friends saw. It was joyous with winning and losing teams draped in Palestinian flags and the narrative was Qatar had relocated a very large number of Palestinians under cover of this HIGHLY unusual World Cup held in Nov when it is normally always mid-year. I did later check flights leaving from the Palestine area prior to the cup and during and the numbers added up. The vid was only out for a day BUT I found it believable. Just curious, IF you did see it you woulld,nt forget it.
Deal look reasonable on paper, but in reality HAMAS are nutters and will not accept it and even if they say they do, they will not.
Hot prediction. Just curious. How much money would you bet on that?
The situation is utterly unique. One, the Cabal is no longer in control in the Middle East. Trump's unifying of the various nations involved shows this.
I tell you what this looks like to me. It looks like Trump has totally out-maneuvered the Cabal and their instruments, that he has Israel exactly where he needs them (keep your friends close, and your enemies closer), and that he has Hamas cornered.
In the same way that he destroyed ISIS, etc. To me, Saving Israel for Last means that only when everything else is cleaned out will the corrupt element behind the modern Israel state be taken out. Until then, control, control, control.
Will Hamas accept or not? I think it matters not. Yes, they get to walk away, powerless. No, they get to leave the planet the hard way.
With the coalition of nations behind him, Trump's letting loose Israel on Hamas will be seen as justified and correct. imo.
Think the nuked Iranian nukes.
I mean, then we regress back to the mean of Israel and Hamas shooting at each other in some timeframe, while we get to back off and say we tried?
Not this time. If Hamass wants to fuck around after this fair offer, then Hamass is gonna find out what the Israeli war machine can really do when they go all in, and with the full backing of the USA.
Their best option is to end the fighting according to the rules set forth in president Trump's comprehensive peace plan. Even better if they manage to do it with grace and dignity. And, it would really be better for the entire middle east, and for a more stable planet earth.
They work for isreal, they will do as they are told,I suspect.
Question is what are they going to tell them?
Exactly this. Hamass are nothing but hand picked stooges and thugs. They will do the bidding of the tribe of satan.
And when they are no longer useful, they get a free pager.
What is the proper response to a foreign army coming in and taking pot-shots at your children and women? Any red-blooded man would soon find himself arming himself and fighting back.
Your statement seems slightly stinky - as in othering people you know nothing about, but labelling every Palistinian as such. Hamas won the most votes in an election. But no-one wants to talk about that, because Israel didn't like the result.
On the other hand, see @Bibloop's post.
Yea, basically 20 years ago, with no new elections since. By that logic since we had issues with muh Osama Bin Laden we should still have Dubya as president, as well as your pick of the '04 Congress or '06 Congress.
Ain't no amount of ultraviolence on either side an excuse to keep politicians in power for practically forever.
OK, but that goes for both sides, though, And the election 20 years ago, with none since issue, is not a fault of the Palestinians - I believe the Israelis wanted the PLO to go away by funding the 'opposition', but have regretted it ever since, because Hamas rose from the ashes.
One does not even believe that Hamas is even a proven party at this point, I hear there are lots of political factions, (and Muslims, Jews, Druze and Christians BTW - the oldest churches in the Levant) because, as you say, Hamas won 20 years ago. Things change.
So... perhaps Palestinians should have an election, then we will know which way they want to go. Stop waiting for others to decide for them, as everyone is retardedly trying to do, Forcing their will, even. Claims that Israel must end Hamas - when they don't even know anything about the extent, and many believe that even a six-year old can be Hamas.
Oh, but elections won't stop the killing, they say. But, they don't even know how much support Hamas has these days. I mean, the Palistinians are starving, one tends to vote with one's belly, at that point. What if a giant throng of voters just wanted it all to go away now. And bring some food please.
Half of me, thinks that Trump-Gaza is a solution - let the Americans own this, with the help of all those Arab countries - and shame on all of them for waiting so long, leaving the protests to Yemen blockades and Iranian retaliations- the other half of me contemplates the giant trap that is Bibi, with his Machiavellian narcissism. I hear Trump is a narcissist as well, but I believe he is a White Hat so benevolent despite his charm - not Machiavellian - even if he understands those types very well.
Also, they will open Rafah and Jordanian border. I wonder...
What's the catch? or is this the launch of "saving Israel for last"
Well, we might see some TDS sufferers experiencing painfully difficult withdrawal symptoms.
(And if we're lucky, maybe we'll also see some "free Palestine" protestors looking for real jobs.)
DID anyone here see the video posted after the 2020 World Cup in Qatar. Unfortunately I have lost it BUT I know what me and my friends saw. It was joyous with winning and losing teams draped in Palestinian flags and the narrative was Qatar had relocated a very large number of Palestinians under cover of this HIGHLY unusual World Cup held in Nov when it is normally always mid-year. I did later check flights leaving from the Palestine area prior to the cup and during and the numbers added up. The vid was only out for a day BUT I found it believable. Just curious, IF you did see it you woulld,nt forget it.
I don't see how anyone can reasonably interpret Netanyahu's comments in that clip as him saying he won't abide by the deal.