Joe legal works in construction, has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.
Ready?... now pay attention....
Joe legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Jose illegal pays no taxes. Jose illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe legal now has $9,631.00.
Jose illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance."... and still has $31,000.00.
Joe legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline.. etc.
Jose illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month....
Joe legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe legal's and Jose illegal's children both attend the same elementary school.
Joe legal pays for his children's lunches while...
Jose illegal's children get a government-sponsored lunch.
Jose illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe legal's children go home.
Now, when they reach college age...
Joe legal's kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while...
Jose illegal's kids go to the, 'head of the class' because they are a minority.
Joe legal and Jose illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not.
Do you get it, now?
If we vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens,... we are part of the problem.
Its way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
- Ron Keen
I'll tell you guys the thing that roils me the most is when I go into my bank or the post office and every single Hispanic that shows up is instantly greeted by their own language.
This happens with no other race as they seemingly learn English very quickly
but the Mexicans even though they can speak bilingual and very well, they still get their native language spoken to them, every single time.
This is happening in San Diego California.
Yep. And the hispanics think they own California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
The ones who refuse to adapt to our American culture and learn our language need to be reminded that they lost.
Yep. You should see them when I tell them to speak English.
They literally blow a gasket and become outraged.
Well, San Diego has a lot of Spanish speaking residents. Legal and illegal. Not a whole lot of, say, Korean speakers there, so not a whole lot of need for Korean speaking bank tellers.
Know where there IS a large number of Korean speaking bank tellers. Annandale, VA. Suburb of DC. Has a HUGE (legal) Korean population. Known as "Little Korea" around DC.
They have a lot of Korean speaking bank tellers, dry cleaners, restaurant workers, 7-11 employees,.etc...
I know this because I lived in Annandale for a couple years and my husband did tutoring on the side for HS SATs, and had a metric fuck ton of Korean students. We made some really good close family friends (one of the kids he tutored in HS is now a 36 year old DC police officer and we talk at least a couple times per month, go to hockey and soccer games together, etc..) and have learned a bit of Korean ourselves. Also learned the importance of having a special refrigerator just for your kimchi, why EVERYONE should have a Zojirushi rice cooker, and why gimbap is better than sushi.
Also, the neighborhood we're in right now has a lot of Ethiopians. So, lots of Ethiopian speaking bank tellers, etc...
My point isn't that Spanish speakers aren't being treated better than everyone else, just because they're Spanish speakers. Just that there are more Spanish speaking people in the US than other (non-english) languages. Out of ALL non-English language speakers in the US, over 60% of them speak Spanish. And where you are is a big factor in what languages you're likely to hear. For instance, if you go to San Francisco, you'll probably hear a lot of Chinese. Go to places with a lot of Amish or Mennonites, and you'll probably hear a lot of German. Go to some RI or MA fishing communities and you'll hear Portugese.
It's not surprising that San Diego has Spanish speaking bank tellers. And it's nothing out of the ordinary.
I get the fact that if a person lives in the US, they should learn English. I 100% support that. But everyone that comes here isn't going to be able to speak fluent English the second they step foot here. Also, even if they DO eventually become fluent, sometimes it's more comfortable for them to speak in their native tongue, especially when it comes to important stuff like money.
Reading through this forum, there's a big sentiment on people here ONLY wanting to hear English, and nothing else. That's just asinine. It's not realistic.
If you've ever worked abroad, or been in the military stationed in other countries, you'd have a more realistic expectation of foreign languages being spoken in the US. Because I can 100% guarantee that every service member and their families, along with every US citizen working in foreign countries is nowhere close to being fluent in the languages of the country they're living in abroad. So let's not be hypocrites.
Having foreigners who come over here assimilate into the US culture and learn English is DEFINITELY the goal.
EXPECTING them all to come over fully fluent in English already and never needing help is just fucking silly. And no, you can't look at people and determine if they've been here long enough to have become fluent in English or not, so don't even start that shit.
I'll also remind you that all of those states you listed as having Spanish speakers thinking they "own them" have had Spanish speakers there as the majority before those states were ever even part of the US. There are Spanish speaking families in those states who have been American citizens since the 1800s. I think a lot of people tend to forget that. Just because you hear them speaking Spanish in public doesn't mean they CAN'T speak English. They just prefer Spanish because they like it better. Doesn't make them any less American than you or me ( I literally had my ancestors come here on the Mayflower (not the first trip) and 100% of my DNA comes from western Europe and great Britain, before you start thinking I'm Mexican or something).
30 years ago Annandale didn't have a Korean town and Arlington and Fairfax didn't have a Vietnam town or a China town or a mexican town or enclaves of muslims. 50 years ago there wasn't a Mexican restaurant in Va or MD or Dc.
And it's a tad misleading to compare this invasion with American troops in foreign lands where the locals are getting very expensive, free defense.
You might want to check your facts on the China town info. China towns have been around since at least the 1800s when Chinese first came over here to work on the railroads. There have been plenty of "x country" towns in America since America was formed.
And what does it matter if some of them are more recent? It's not like you think that being here a long time makes it OK, because like I said earlier, those states you complain about having a lot of Spanish speaking people belonged to Spanish speaking countries before they even became part of the United States. So Spanish has been spoken there longer than English. That makes no difference to you. So all this "so and so has only been around the last 30 years" bullshit is nothing but deflection. And mostly wrong at that!
So you think that because America provides defense in some foreign countries abroad, Americans don't have to comply to the rules you want for foreigners here? It's OK for Americans to not speak the language of the countries they move to or assimilate to the countries they move to because America provides defense for various countries around the world? Seriously? You don't think that's a bit hypocritical and nonsensical? (Wait, what am I saying. Of course you don't! I doubt you've ever even considered it much.)
What about countries where we DON'T provide protection for that particular country. Should Americans living in those countries be barred from speaking English in public?
So, why did all these people move here to create their own little countries? Why leave the real deal? The progeny of Italy, Poland, Ireland, Wales live on every street in the US. I think it's because after Ellis Island all immigration was reduced to a fraction of that period so the newcomers would assimilate.
They all fly their own flags. So why exactly are they here? To destroy us maybe?
China towns? Makes one wonder why people who have lived here so long insist on their own enclaves and put up great red arches to identify themselves as separate from America.
And the solution to American soldiers in foreign lands? Bring them home.