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Something else to consider.
Revelation was written after 70 AD, which means Jerusalem clearly still matters.
John calls the harlot “the great city where our Lord was crucified” (Rev 11:8). That’s Jerusalem, not Rome. And the Beast turning on her (Rev 17:16) shows that she still plays a prophetic role right up until the end.
So unless you’re a full preterist who thinks Revelation already happened, you kinda have to admit - Jerusalem’s still on God’s stage
Pretty sure Revelation was written before 70 AD given its many references to the temple, and complete lack of any mention of its destruction.
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t 😬
You can't explain all the verses in Revelation which state that everything will happen soon (1:1, 1:3, 1:7, 22:10) unless you place its writing before it all happened in 70 AD.
Yeah I get why you’d say that, man - those “soon”, “near”, and “at hand” lines in Revelation sound like they lock the whole thing into the first century. But that’s kinda reading it through our modern sense of timing instead of God’s.
In prophecy, words like that usually mean certainty, not necessarily immediacy. Isaiah called Babylon’s fall “near” (Isa 13:6) - but it didn’t go down for about 150 years.
Peter even said a thousand years is like a day to God (2 Pet 3:8). So yeah, soon to God doesn’t always mean soon to us.
The Greek phrase in Rev 1:1 - “en tachei” - literally means “in quickness,” which can mean it’ll happen suddenly once it starts, not that it had to start right away.
Same idea when Jesus says “I come quickly.” It’s about speed when it begins, not date on the calendar.
And if Revelation was written later, around 95 AD like Irenaeus and other early writers said, John’s “soon” still fits perfectly. The setup was already in motion - but the main act’s still coming.
So ya, soon doesn’t have to mean already happened. It means guaranteed to happen. God’s version of “soon” keeps the church watching - not clock-watching. 💪
Good discussion! I’m off to bed, we’ll pick back up tomorrow. 🙏
Revelation was written before 70AD:
We'll use Scripture, history, and a bit of sanctified common sense to prove it:
John describes the Temple as if it’s still up and running:
Now, if you’re writing after A.D. 70, when Titus had just turned the Temple into a smoldering pile of rocks, you don’t talk about “measuring” it unless you’re in the mood for dark comedy. John treats the Temple as present reality, not ancient history. The text gives no hint that the Temple had already been destroyed—which would’ve been the most seismic event in Jewish and Christian life since Sinai.
So unless John just forgot to mention that whole city-on-fire thing, we’re looking at a pre-70 date.
Revelation 17:10 talks about seven kings:
If you start counting from Julius Caesar, the sixth emperor—the one who “is”—is Nero. Nero ruled from A.D. 54 to 68, which means John was writing when Nero was still breathing, fiddling, and lighting up Christians as backyard torches. That’s not a bad chronological marker.
And the “number of the beast” (666)? Add up the Hebrew letters for Neron Caesar (נרון קסר), and you get—you guessed it—666. You can’t make this stuff up. That fits Nero, not some European bureaucrat with a fondness for microchips.
John wasn’t writing like a man describing events thousands of years down the road. He said things were about to happen soon:
You can try to stretch “shortly” until it means “a few thousand years from now,” but that’s about as honest as calling your toddler “almost ready for college” because he can hold a crayon. The plain sense is that John expected fulfillment in his generation.
Revelation is sent to seven real churches in Asia Minor. These weren’t prophecy hobbyists waiting to decode barcodes; they were actual congregations facing persecution from Rome and apostate Jerusalem. John writes to them about what they would soon endure. If it was all about some future one-world government in the 21st century, it would’ve been as comforting to them as reading the ingredients list on a box of cereal in Greek.
The years leading up to 70 A.D. were a smoldering fuse of rebellion, persecution, and apocalyptic fever. Christians were being hunted by both Jews and Romans. False messiahs were popping up faster than presidential candidates in election season. Revelation reads like a front-row commentary on that chaos.
The “great city” that “spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified” (11:8) can’t be Rome—it’s Jerusalem. And the judgment scenes fit perfectly with Jesus’ own Olivet prophecy (Matthew 24), which specifically predicted Jerusalem’s fall within “this generation.”
While some later writers (like Irenaeus) placed Revelation in Domitian’s reign (90s A.D.), that tradition is weak tea. Irenaeus’ Greek is ambiguous—it may refer to John himself being seen in Domitian’s time, not the vision being received then. And other early evidence (such as Clement of Alexandria and the Syriac versions) points earlier.
When you weigh the internal evidence, it’s about as one-sided as a sumo match.
Conclusion: Revelation Was the Finale of the Old Covenant
Revelation isn’t about spaceships, scorpions, or Vladimir Putin’s birthmark. It’s about the end of the Old Covenant order—the divorce decree of unfaithful Israel and the coronation of the true Bride, the Church. It’s the fireworks show of redemptive history, announcing that Christ has taken His throne and the Temple system has been permanently retired.
So yes, Revelation was written before 70 A.D.—and what it describes isn’t a future collapse of Western civilization, but the old Jerusalem’s judgment and the new Jerusalem’s dawn.
Revelation isn’t a crystal ball for newspaper eschatology; it’s the victory parade after the Cross, marching straight through the rubble of the Temple.