"Israelites are the ancient people described in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and other historical texts as the descendants of the patriarch Jacob (also named Israel). They are considered the ancestors of the Jewish people."
"Israelis are citizens or residents of the modern State of Israel, established in 1948."
There are no more Israelites by God's standard. To call oneself and Israelite one had to show their genealogy... Which was stored in the temple that was destroyed in 70 AD
This is not true. Only the priests (Levites) needed to prove lineage for service in the temple. These were the records that were stored in the temple and destroyed in 70AD.
Not every Jew carried a mini scroll in their pocket to prove ancestry.
Also, one could still be considered Israel or an Israelite if they joined themselves to the God of Israel. For example, Ruth the Moabitess wasn’t born an Israelite, but she left her people and said to Naomi, “Your people will be my people, and your God my God.” (Ruth 1:16–17)
She fully assimilated into Israel and even became part of the Messianic line- King David’s great-grandmother (Ruth 4:17, 22; Matt 1:5).
Same thing with Rahab from Jericho (Josh 2; 6:25) and the mixed multitude that left Egypt (Ex 12:38, 48–49).
Soo, foreigners could still become part of Israel through faith and allegiance to Israel’s God.
There are no more "true Israelites" since God destroyed the temple in 70AD
When Titus marched into Jerusalem in 70 AD and the temple went up in flames, it wasn’t just the end of the sacrificial system, it was the shredding of Israel’s family tree. The genealogical records were kept in the temple. You needed them to prove what tribe you were from, who your ancestors were, and, critically, whether you could serve as a priest. Once those records went up in smoke, the ability to prove tribal descent went with them.
So today, when someone claims to be a “true Israelite,” it’s a little like a guy insisting he’s the rightful heir to the throne of Gondor. Sounds impressive, but the paperwork is missing, pal. You can say you’re from Levi, but without records, you’ve got as much proof as the guy in the tin-foil crown at the bus stop.
And this isn’t an accident of history—it was God’s own judgment. Christ fulfilled the temple, the priesthood, and the sacrifices, and then God pulled the plug on the whole system. No more temple, no more records, no more endless genealogies (Paul warned against those in Titus 3:9). Because the true Israelite has already come. Jesus is the seed of Abraham, the Lion of Judah, and all who are in Him are the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16).
In short: after 70 AD, the only way to be a “true Israelite” is to be grafted into Christ. Everyone else is just rummaging around in the ashes of a burned-down filing cabinet.
The early church fathers didn’t miss the significance of 70 AD. They saw it as God Himself putting His own exclamation mark on the end of the old covenant system. Here are some examples:
Justin Martyr (2nd century)
In Dialogue with Trypho the Jew (chapters 16, 19), Justin argues that with the destruction of the temple, Jews lost the ability to fulfill the law’s requirements. No sacrifices, no priesthood, no genealogical proof. He tells Trypho plainly that Christians are now the true heirs of Abraham, because faith, not bloodlines, makes you a son of the covenant.
Tertullian (early 3rd century)
In An Answer to the Jews, he notes that after 70 AD, the Jews were scattered and temple worship was impossible. He sees this as proof that God had shifted His favor and covenant promises to those in Christ. He essentially says, “You can’t even prove your lineage anymore, because God Himself cut off that avenue.”
Eusebius (early 4th century)
In his Ecclesiastical History (Book 3, chapter 5), he records how Jerusalem was judged in 70 AD, and connects this to Christ’s prophecy in Matthew 24. He underscores that the temple’s destruction was the divine sign that the old covenant order had passed away, and with it the genealogical distinctions that propped up Jewish identity.
Irenaeus (2nd century)
In Against Heresies (Book 4, chapter 2), Irenaeus ties the promise to Abraham to Christ and those who believe in Him. He argues that fleshly descent doesn’t matter anymore, because God had deliberately removed that whole scaffolding by which Jews could boast.
So the patristic point was this:
Once the genealogical records went up in smoke, Jewish claims to tribal purity were unprovable. And that wasn’t a historical accident, it was God’s judgment and mercy rolled into one. Judgment on unbelieving Israel, mercy in that the only Israel that matters now is the one united to Christ by faith.
To borrow a Wilsonism: the fathers understood that God didn’t just burn the temple down, He padlocked the genealogy office. From that point on, the only roll call that matters is the Lamb’s Book of Life.
There are no more "true Israelites" since God destroyed the temple in 70AD
When Titus marched into Jerusalem in 70 AD and the temple went up in flames, it wasn’t just the end of the sacrificial system, it was the shredding of Israel’s family tree. The genealogical records were kept in the temple. You needed them to prove what tribe you were from, who your ancestors were, and, critically, whether you could serve as a priest. Once those records went up in smoke, the ability to prove tribal descent went with them.
So today, when someone claims to be a “true Israelite,” it’s a little like a guy insisting he’s the rightful heir to the throne of Gondor. Sounds impressive, but the paperwork is missing, pal. You can say you’re from Levi, but without records, you’ve got as much proof as the guy in the tin-foil crown at the bus stop.
And this isn’t an accident of history—it was God’s own judgment. Christ fulfilled the temple, the priesthood, and the sacrifices, and then God pulled the plug on the whole system. No more temple, no more records, no more endless genealogies (Paul warned against those in Titus 3:9). Because the true Israelite has already come. Jesus is the seed of Abraham, the Lion of Judah, and all who are in Him are the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16).
In short: after 70 AD, the only way to be a “true Israelite” is to be grafted into Christ. Everyone else is just rummaging around in the ashes of a burned-down filing cabinet.
The early church fathers didn’t miss the significance of 70 AD. They saw it as God Himself putting His own exclamation mark on the end of the old covenant system. Here are some examples:
Justin Martyr (2nd century)
In Dialogue with Trypho the Jew (chapters 16, 19), Justin argues that with the destruction of the temple, Jews lost the ability to fulfill the law’s requirements. No sacrifices, no priesthood, no genealogical proof. He tells Trypho plainly that Christians are now the true heirs of Abraham, because faith, not bloodlines, makes you a son of the covenant.
Tertullian (early 3rd century)
In An Answer to the Jews, he notes that after 70 AD, the Jews were scattered and temple worship was impossible. He sees this as proof that God had shifted His favor and covenant promises to those in Christ. He essentially says, “You can’t even prove your lineage anymore, because God Himself cut off that avenue.”
Eusebius (early 4th century)
In his Ecclesiastical History (Book 3, chapter 5), he records how Jerusalem was judged in 70 AD, and connects this to Christ’s prophecy in Matthew 24. He underscores that the temple’s destruction was the divine sign that the old covenant order had passed away, and with it the genealogical distinctions that propped up Jewish identity.
Irenaeus (2nd century)
In Against Heresies (Book 4, chapter 2), Irenaeus ties the promise to Abraham to Christ and those who believe in Him. He argues that fleshly descent doesn’t matter anymore, because God had deliberately removed that whole scaffolding by which Jews could boast.
So the patristic point was this:
Once the genealogical records went up in smoke, Jewish claims to tribal purity were unprovable. And that wasn’t a historical accident, it was God’s judgment and mercy rolled into one. Judgment on unbelieving Israel, mercy in that the only Israel that matters now is the one united to Christ by faith.
To borrow a Wilsonism: the fathers understood that God didn’t just burn the temple down, He padlocked the genealogy office. From that point on, the only roll call that matters is the Lamb’s Book of Life.
Israel is the only situation where a government or their intelligence agency does something evil, and detractors pour out of the woodwork to implicate every living member of the race instead of the government/intelligence agency.
There could be a thread about the Taliban, you won't see comments in the thread about hatred of Sunni muslims or Bacha Bazi where they rape boys.
There could be a thread about China, you won't have comments in the thread about how Chinese are committing genocide against Uyghurs, harvesting their organs.
There could be a thread about India, you won't see comments in the thread about how its the rape capital of the world and their roving rape gangs, or the barbaric mindset that would need to be ingrained into a population to allow it to happen.
There could be a thread about Muslims, you won't see 100s of unsourced hot takes on how muh Quran is evil.
But for some very odd, very unnatural reason, there are a never ending supply of bots wanting to disparage every living Jew.
Chinese are 17.2% of the world population. Muslims are 25.6% of the world's population. Indians are 17.8% of the world population. Those groups alone account for over 60% of the world's population, but you'll never hear a peep about these groups from the Jew haters.
In fact, most of the time they're standing up for Palestinians. They care so much about Quran believers as they rant for hours against Talmud believers.
The idea of Jewish no-go zones is ridiculous. The idea of roving Jewish rape gangs is ridiculous. The notion that Jews rape boys is preposterous. The notion that Jews are currently exterminating a group as large as the 12 million Uyghurs is ridiculous. But these idiots will rant for hours about muh USS Liberty, which would be fine if they were using it as an example of how to hate the Israeli government, but instead they use it as why every living Jew should be hated.
It's all a psyop. 1000s of bots and handfuls of weak-minded fools who believed the psyop. It makes no sense that such a large group of forum users would be ranting against 0.2% of the world's population while simultaneously not caring about 60% of the world's population with equally, if not more disturbing characteristics.
The Jew haters of GAW are the digital equivalent of Patriot Front.
People need to make the distinction between Israelites and Israelis, they are NOT the same.
"Israelites are the ancient people described in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and other historical texts as the descendants of the patriarch Jacob (also named Israel). They are considered the ancestors of the Jewish people."
"Israelis are citizens or residents of the modern State of Israel, established in 1948."
There are no more Israelites by God's standard. To call oneself and Israelite one had to show their genealogy... Which was stored in the temple that was destroyed in 70 AD
This is not true. Only the priests (Levites) needed to prove lineage for service in the temple. These were the records that were stored in the temple and destroyed in 70AD.
Not every Jew carried a mini scroll in their pocket to prove ancestry.
Also, one could still be considered Israel or an Israelite if they joined themselves to the God of Israel. For example, Ruth the Moabitess wasn’t born an Israelite, but she left her people and said to Naomi, “Your people will be my people, and your God my God.” (Ruth 1:16–17)
She fully assimilated into Israel and even became part of the Messianic line- King David’s great-grandmother (Ruth 4:17, 22; Matt 1:5).
Same thing with Rahab from Jericho (Josh 2; 6:25) and the mixed multitude that left Egypt (Ex 12:38, 48–49).
Soo, foreigners could still become part of Israel through faith and allegiance to Israel’s God.
There are no more "true Israelites" since God destroyed the temple in 70AD
When Titus marched into Jerusalem in 70 AD and the temple went up in flames, it wasn’t just the end of the sacrificial system, it was the shredding of Israel’s family tree. The genealogical records were kept in the temple. You needed them to prove what tribe you were from, who your ancestors were, and, critically, whether you could serve as a priest. Once those records went up in smoke, the ability to prove tribal descent went with them.
So today, when someone claims to be a “true Israelite,” it’s a little like a guy insisting he’s the rightful heir to the throne of Gondor. Sounds impressive, but the paperwork is missing, pal. You can say you’re from Levi, but without records, you’ve got as much proof as the guy in the tin-foil crown at the bus stop.
And this isn’t an accident of history—it was God’s own judgment. Christ fulfilled the temple, the priesthood, and the sacrifices, and then God pulled the plug on the whole system. No more temple, no more records, no more endless genealogies (Paul warned against those in Titus 3:9). Because the true Israelite has already come. Jesus is the seed of Abraham, the Lion of Judah, and all who are in Him are the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16).
In short: after 70 AD, the only way to be a “true Israelite” is to be grafted into Christ. Everyone else is just rummaging around in the ashes of a burned-down filing cabinet.
The early church fathers didn’t miss the significance of 70 AD. They saw it as God Himself putting His own exclamation mark on the end of the old covenant system. Here are some examples:
Justin Martyr (2nd century)
In Dialogue with Trypho the Jew (chapters 16, 19), Justin argues that with the destruction of the temple, Jews lost the ability to fulfill the law’s requirements. No sacrifices, no priesthood, no genealogical proof. He tells Trypho plainly that Christians are now the true heirs of Abraham, because faith, not bloodlines, makes you a son of the covenant.
Tertullian (early 3rd century)
In An Answer to the Jews, he notes that after 70 AD, the Jews were scattered and temple worship was impossible. He sees this as proof that God had shifted His favor and covenant promises to those in Christ. He essentially says, “You can’t even prove your lineage anymore, because God Himself cut off that avenue.”
Eusebius (early 4th century)
In his Ecclesiastical History (Book 3, chapter 5), he records how Jerusalem was judged in 70 AD, and connects this to Christ’s prophecy in Matthew 24. He underscores that the temple’s destruction was the divine sign that the old covenant order had passed away, and with it the genealogical distinctions that propped up Jewish identity.
Irenaeus (2nd century)
In Against Heresies (Book 4, chapter 2), Irenaeus ties the promise to Abraham to Christ and those who believe in Him. He argues that fleshly descent doesn’t matter anymore, because God had deliberately removed that whole scaffolding by which Jews could boast.
So the patristic point was this: Once the genealogical records went up in smoke, Jewish claims to tribal purity were unprovable. And that wasn’t a historical accident, it was God’s judgment and mercy rolled into one. Judgment on unbelieving Israel, mercy in that the only Israel that matters now is the one united to Christ by faith.
To borrow a Wilsonism: the fathers understood that God didn’t just burn the temple down, He padlocked the genealogy office. From that point on, the only roll call that matters is the Lamb’s Book of Life.
There are no more "true Israelites" since God destroyed the temple in 70AD
When Titus marched into Jerusalem in 70 AD and the temple went up in flames, it wasn’t just the end of the sacrificial system, it was the shredding of Israel’s family tree. The genealogical records were kept in the temple. You needed them to prove what tribe you were from, who your ancestors were, and, critically, whether you could serve as a priest. Once those records went up in smoke, the ability to prove tribal descent went with them.
So today, when someone claims to be a “true Israelite,” it’s a little like a guy insisting he’s the rightful heir to the throne of Gondor. Sounds impressive, but the paperwork is missing, pal. You can say you’re from Levi, but without records, you’ve got as much proof as the guy in the tin-foil crown at the bus stop.
And this isn’t an accident of history—it was God’s own judgment. Christ fulfilled the temple, the priesthood, and the sacrifices, and then God pulled the plug on the whole system. No more temple, no more records, no more endless genealogies (Paul warned against those in Titus 3:9). Because the true Israelite has already come. Jesus is the seed of Abraham, the Lion of Judah, and all who are in Him are the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16).
In short: after 70 AD, the only way to be a “true Israelite” is to be grafted into Christ. Everyone else is just rummaging around in the ashes of a burned-down filing cabinet.
The early church fathers didn’t miss the significance of 70 AD. They saw it as God Himself putting His own exclamation mark on the end of the old covenant system. Here are some examples:
Justin Martyr (2nd century)
In Dialogue with Trypho the Jew (chapters 16, 19), Justin argues that with the destruction of the temple, Jews lost the ability to fulfill the law’s requirements. No sacrifices, no priesthood, no genealogical proof. He tells Trypho plainly that Christians are now the true heirs of Abraham, because faith, not bloodlines, makes you a son of the covenant.
Tertullian (early 3rd century)
In An Answer to the Jews, he notes that after 70 AD, the Jews were scattered and temple worship was impossible. He sees this as proof that God had shifted His favor and covenant promises to those in Christ. He essentially says, “You can’t even prove your lineage anymore, because God Himself cut off that avenue.”
Eusebius (early 4th century)
In his Ecclesiastical History (Book 3, chapter 5), he records how Jerusalem was judged in 70 AD, and connects this to Christ’s prophecy in Matthew 24. He underscores that the temple’s destruction was the divine sign that the old covenant order had passed away, and with it the genealogical distinctions that propped up Jewish identity.
Irenaeus (2nd century)
In Against Heresies (Book 4, chapter 2), Irenaeus ties the promise to Abraham to Christ and those who believe in Him. He argues that fleshly descent doesn’t matter anymore, because God had deliberately removed that whole scaffolding by which Jews could boast.
So the patristic point was this: Once the genealogical records went up in smoke, Jewish claims to tribal purity were unprovable. And that wasn’t a historical accident, it was God’s judgment and mercy rolled into one. Judgment on unbelieving Israel, mercy in that the only Israel that matters now is the one united to Christ by faith.
To borrow a Wilsonism: the fathers understood that God didn’t just burn the temple down, He padlocked the genealogy office. From that point on, the only roll call that matters is the Lamb’s Book of Life.
Israel is the only situation where a government or their intelligence agency does something evil, and detractors pour out of the woodwork to implicate every living member of the race instead of the government/intelligence agency.
There could be a thread about the Taliban, you won't see comments in the thread about hatred of Sunni muslims or Bacha Bazi where they rape boys.
There could be a thread about China, you won't have comments in the thread about how Chinese are committing genocide against Uyghurs, harvesting their organs.
There could be a thread about India, you won't see comments in the thread about how its the rape capital of the world and their roving rape gangs, or the barbaric mindset that would need to be ingrained into a population to allow it to happen.
There could be a thread about Muslims, you won't see 100s of unsourced hot takes on how muh Quran is evil.
But for some very odd, very unnatural reason, there are a never ending supply of bots wanting to disparage every living Jew.
Chinese are 17.2% of the world population. Muslims are 25.6% of the world's population. Indians are 17.8% of the world population. Those groups alone account for over 60% of the world's population, but you'll never hear a peep about these groups from the Jew haters.
In fact, most of the time they're standing up for Palestinians. They care so much about Quran believers as they rant for hours against Talmud believers.
The idea of Jewish no-go zones is ridiculous. The idea of roving Jewish rape gangs is ridiculous. The notion that Jews rape boys is preposterous. The notion that Jews are currently exterminating a group as large as the 12 million Uyghurs is ridiculous. But these idiots will rant for hours about muh USS Liberty, which would be fine if they were using it as an example of how to hate the Israeli government, but instead they use it as why every living Jew should be hated.
It's all a psyop. 1000s of bots and handfuls of weak-minded fools who believed the psyop. It makes no sense that such a large group of forum users would be ranting against 0.2% of the world's population while simultaneously not caring about 60% of the world's population with equally, if not more disturbing characteristics.
The Jew haters of GAW are the digital equivalent of Patriot Front.
No ACTS clearly states they worship Remphan and that’s what the Star of David really is.