The phrase “separation between church and state” was reintroduced by former Klansman Hugo Black, historically one of our most liberal Supreme Court judges.
I thought that part was interesting.
The original intent was to protect the church from intrusion by the state. Not the other way around. When laid out in those terms, you can see why Leftists were desperate to change its meaning, since The State is their god.
I am a Christian, and the whole point is people have to choose Christ. I don't think the federal government should be making that choice for anyone. Like the Holman Hunt picture where Christ is knocking but the handle is on the other side of the door. I am not really one to quote scripture, but the reference is intrepeted to be to Revelation 3:20: "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him".
I'll also add that - purely IN THEORY - I like the idea of Christian Nationalism; but in REALITY, I too am extremely wary of getting govt involved with religion - to an extent.
I definitely do not want govt doing things like forcing people to go to church, etc., but should our gov declare Christianity the official religion of the the US & finally and completely affirm that we are, in fact, a Christian nation?
Absolutely.
Just like we should declare English our country's official language.
But I definitely don't want gov getting involved in religion - any religion - beyond declaring it the official US Religion and protecting it. I'd definitely be OK with the gov putting up Christian imagery & statues in public places, with taxpayer funds, but again; provided the same is NOT afforded to other religions. I'd want the fed gov to "unfairly" protect & prioritize Christianity.
NO; we are NOT a "melting pot"; NO; our diversity is NOT our strength; and NO; not all religions are equal.
They also cannot all be true. I believe the overwhelming majority of actual, real scientific, historical, archaeological and other data fully & completely support Christianity as being completely true, but that's a whole other ball of wax.....
I am not a firm believer in separation of church and state. That is a communist idea. I am a firm believer that the government should not tell us what church too follow. Which is what our founding fathers believed.
We are at the state we are now because of the lie that is called the separation of church and state. Which means there should be no moral absolute. Morals should flow with the times.
We already do. They just happen to worship Satan. I agree there should be no state religion. But you run into problems when you say there is no God. Because then the state is God. There has to be a higher authority that our rights come from.
No offense, and truly I say this respectfully; but you fundamentally misunderstand our system of government.
John Adams: 'Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.'
And did you know the reason that the Founding Fathers pushed for the 1st Amendment's religious aspect is because the original 13 colonies had official state churches, and they didn't want one sect being imposed by the new fed gov, over another.
The protestants didn't want anglicanism forced on them, because they already lived in a state with an official Anglican religion.
The Congretaionalists didn't want another religion imposed upon them by the fed; they lived in a state whose official religion was already Congregationalism.
"Separation of church & state" is not only a complete & total myth; it has directly & materially led to the downfall & decay of our society.
No. I'm still a firm believer in separation of church and state. I am not a Christian and have never pretended to be.
Too bad the original intent behind the separation of church and state has been so bastardized.
An interesting read
I thought that part was interesting.
The original intent was to protect the church from intrusion by the state. Not the other way around. When laid out in those terms, you can see why Leftists were desperate to change its meaning, since The State is their god.
I believe it should go both ways.
Well, the way we've been doing it hasn't turned out to be all that great.
Secularism has brought us to the gates of hell.
I am a Christian, and the whole point is people have to choose Christ. I don't think the federal government should be making that choice for anyone. Like the Holman Hunt picture where Christ is knocking but the handle is on the other side of the door. I am not really one to quote scripture, but the reference is intrepeted to be to Revelation 3:20: "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him".
That's my view anyhoo.
I'll also add that - purely IN THEORY - I like the idea of Christian Nationalism; but in REALITY, I too am extremely wary of getting govt involved with religion - to an extent.
I definitely do not want govt doing things like forcing people to go to church, etc., but should our gov declare Christianity the official religion of the the US & finally and completely affirm that we are, in fact, a Christian nation?
Absolutely.
Just like we should declare English our country's official language.
But I definitely don't want gov getting involved in religion - any religion - beyond declaring it the official US Religion and protecting it. I'd definitely be OK with the gov putting up Christian imagery & statues in public places, with taxpayer funds, but again; provided the same is NOT afforded to other religions. I'd want the fed gov to "unfairly" protect & prioritize Christianity.
NO; we are NOT a "melting pot"; NO; our diversity is NOT our strength; and NO; not all religions are equal.
They also cannot all be true. I believe the overwhelming majority of actual, real scientific, historical, archaeological and other data fully & completely support Christianity as being completely true, but that's a whole other ball of wax.....
Don't like it? Don't come here.
I am not a firm believer in separation of church and state. That is a communist idea. I am a firm believer that the government should not tell us what church too follow. Which is what our founding fathers believed. We are at the state we are now because of the lie that is called the separation of church and state. Which means there should be no moral absolute. Morals should flow with the times.
No. I refuse to live in a theocracy. That's just as bad as living under a monarchy.
We already do. They just happen to worship Satan. I agree there should be no state religion. But you run into problems when you say there is no God. Because then the state is God. There has to be a higher authority that our rights come from.
No offense, and truly I say this respectfully; but you fundamentally misunderstand our system of government.
John Adams: 'Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.'
And did you know the reason that the Founding Fathers pushed for the 1st Amendment's religious aspect is because the original 13 colonies had official state churches, and they didn't want one sect being imposed by the new fed gov, over another.
The protestants didn't want anglicanism forced on them, because they already lived in a state with an official Anglican religion. The Congretaionalists didn't want another religion imposed upon them by the fed; they lived in a state whose official religion was already Congregationalism.
"Separation of church & state" is not only a complete & total myth; it has directly & materially led to the downfall & decay of our society.
Agree. Don't want to see any religion governing. Especially the angry and subversive ones.
.....which religions do you consider angry & subversive...?
The ones that strive to keep the world under their financial control or the ones who promise virgins to kamikaze fighters. Take your pick.
Roger that, hear u loud & clear.... 🫡🙏