Collapse? Why? What are you funding? You are basically occupying half the world. What do a few tens of thousand soldiers in Germany fund? Bratwurst and beers?
The situation is exactly the opposite. The Americans have European bases from which they attack half the world. Imagine the reduction in power if the US lost those bases (this is exactly why Russians like Chukna propose this idea). And on top of that, European politicians get bribes from Americans to buy their weapons in the US. Without that, we would gladly have more of our own weapons and our economy would profit.
Let me tell you a tale about the US Navy and the city of Norfolk, VA back in the 80s.
Now sailors aren't the politest of company, I'll give you that. Rarely a plaster saint (to borrow from Kipling) amongst them. But they're also not a major source of crime (at least back then).
So denizens of Norfolk started getting rude, some businesses had "No dogs or sailors allowed", grifting and scamming of sailors was widespread.
In response to this the Navy, after a number of good faith attempts to have Norfolk resolve the issues, simple moved all ships to a port in Florida (I forget which one, happened while I was overseas), and all the airdales to Pensacola NAS.
It took about 6 weeks for the city of Norfolk to cave in and beg the Navy to come back.
Fast forward to 2026
Now, let's say that we pull out of NATO. What do you imagine will happen to the cities those bases are in?
They would collapse within 6 months.
Six months? Ha! I'd guess probably half of that or less.
Collapse? Why? What are you funding? You are basically occupying half the world. What do a few tens of thousand soldiers in Germany fund? Bratwurst and beers?
The situation is exactly the opposite. The Americans have European bases from which they attack half the world. Imagine the reduction in power if the US lost those bases (this is exactly why Russians like Chukna propose this idea). And on top of that, European politicians get bribes from Americans to buy their weapons in the US. Without that, we would gladly have more of our own weapons and our economy would profit.
Let me tell you a tale about the US Navy and the city of Norfolk, VA back in the 80s.
Now sailors aren't the politest of company, I'll give you that. Rarely a plaster saint (to borrow from Kipling) amongst them. But they're also not a major source of crime (at least back then).
So denizens of Norfolk started getting rude, some businesses had "No dogs or sailors allowed", grifting and scamming of sailors was widespread.
In response to this the Navy, after a number of good faith attempts to have Norfolk resolve the issues, simple moved all ships to a port in Florida (I forget which one, happened while I was overseas), and all the airdales to Pensacola NAS.
It took about 6 weeks for the city of Norfolk to cave in and beg the Navy to come back.
Fast forward to 2026
Now, let's say that we pull out of NATO. What do you imagine will happen to the cities those bases are in?
Classic Euro deflection, no problem is their own fault, it's those brutish Americans or those dastardly Russians...
What am I funding? Oh just European healthcare with my tax dollars.
You wouldn't have anything without the US man, stop pretending otherwise. +
They're already collapsing and doing a fine job of it.