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The UK Government could start press ganging veterans under 65 to serve their country once more. These are their instructions for initial entry.
ROYAL NAVY PRE AGE 65 VETERAN RECALL JOINING INSTRUCTIONS.
1.Congratulations you have been chosen by PM Keir Starmer to rejoin the Royal Navy ⚓️🇬🇧. Please read the following instructions carefully. These are also available in LARGE FONT.
You will be issued with a rail warrant from your nearest station to Plymouth where an easy access bus will take you to the new Re-Entry Division at HMS Raleigh. This has been refurbished and is close to the Sick Bay.
On arrival you will be welcomed by your Class Instructor and settle into your Mess after which a tasty tea in the galley where a range of easily chewable food awaits you.
Mod hearing aids and Cpac machines will issued (Pat tested) . Med top ups are available also. At the same time catheter bags and Depends changed out.
After a good night's sleep following a late night (21.30) , oveltine and digestive biscuit. You will be taken to Slops to collect your uniform. The Royal Navy have worked closely with Damart to produce a comfortable easy care uniform. Even your boots and shoes have been modified and are now come with easy wear Velcro fastenings.
After collecting your personal issue mobility scooter you can have a leisurely ride around Hms Raleigh.
It's now Stand Easy or as the RN has renamed the break 'Nice Sit Down'. Further instructions will be issued in a nice chat with your instructors after an afternoon post lunch nap.
Happy 80th Birthday Dolly Parton.
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For when Q posted two massive lists one with all Repub and one with all Dem politicians busted for sex crimes?
Spot silver 94.60.
Us markets closed.
Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Jimmy Carr talking about how the Roman and British empires didn't go away, they just changed into Rome for religion and London for banking. Also insightful things about America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frCnYp9Wwrg
1 John 3:16
By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers.
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Did Fossil Birds Live Longer than Today's Birds? BY JAKE HEBERT, PH.D. | WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 31, 2025
https://www.icr.org/article/15647/?utm_source=phpList&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=%28no+subject%29&utm_content=HTML
The Bible matter-of-factly states that humans living before and shortly after the Genesis Flood had centuries-long lifespans (Genesis 5 and 11). Yet the Bible gives no indication that this remarkable longevity was supernatural. If such human longevity was indeed natural, then early animals likely also had very long lifespans, since almost any conceivable cause for greater human longevity (fewer DNA mutations, a more optimal environment, etc.) would also have affected the animals. This would include birds, and a new proposal for why fossil birds lost their teeth is consistent with longer pre-Flood lifespans.
Direct and indirect evidence already published in the conventional scientific literature shows that fossil clams and oysters, sharks, crocodilians, and some small mammals lived much longer than comparable creatures today.1 Also, generally, larger animals live longer than smaller animals, and long-lived animals take longer to mature than shorter-lived animals.2
At least some fossil birds were much larger than today’s birds.3 And most of today’s birds take a few weeks to months to reach adulthood,4 yet multiple fossil birds took several years to do so.5 Such delayed maturation is consistent with longer bird lifespans, and it may help creationists explain why some fossil birds had teeth, though true teeth are not present in any of today’s birds.
Yang and Sander suggested that teeth are absent in today’s birds because they take less time to hatch than fossil birds.6 Tooth growth in some extant reptiles doesn’t even start until at least 40% of the incubation time has elapsed, and embryonic bird teeth may follow a similar development schedule. If so, today’s birds may lack teeth because they hatch too quickly for teeth to form. Therefore, teeth could be indirect evidence that fossil birds had longer incubation times. And since longer-lived creatures often take longer to mature than shorter-lived animals, both before and after birth or hatching,7 this could be more evidence that fossil birds had longer lifespans than today’s birds.
Evolutionary scientists claim fossil birds inherited their teeth from reptile ancestors but eventually lost them through mutations and natural selection. But there could be another explanation. Teeth are useful but not absolutely necessary structures. Perhaps there are coded instructions within a bird’s genome or other non-genetic information that instruct the embryo not to begin tooth formation when teeth are not an adaptive priority and/or when the anticipated incubation time is too short to complete the tooth formation process. Rather, instructions optimize the developing embryo to give higher priority to more essential structures and functions. This could be another example of adaptation guided by continuous environmental tracking.8
Bible-believing Christians should be encouraged by this. Delayed maturation and larger body sizes in at least some fossil birds are consistent with the Bible’s testimony of greater longevity on the pre-Flood earth. And the evolutionary lens is not the only, nor often the best, one through which one can interpret scientific data. Living things, and even their fossils, confirm Scripture and testify to Jesus’ engineering genius.
References
Hebert, J. 2025. Croc Fossils Hint at Extreme Longevity. Acts & Facts. 54 (2): 18. Hebert, L. III. 2023. Allometric and Metabolic Scaling: Arguments for Design . . . and Clues to Explaining Pre-Flood Longevity? Proceedings of the International Conference on Creationism. 9, article 18. Burakoff, M. Terror Birds, Giga-Geese, and the Oldest Birds of Prey? 2024’s Fascinating Avian Fossil Finds. Audubon Magazine. Posted on audubon.org December 20, 2024, accessed October 17, 2025. Canoville, A. A. et al. 2022. New Comparative Data on the Long Bone Microstructure of Large Extant and Extinct Flightless Birds. Diversity. 14 (298): 26. Padian, K. 2023. 25th Anniversary of the First Known Feathered Dinosaurs. Nature. 613 (7943): 251–252. Yang, T.-R. and P. M. Sander. 2018. The Origin of the Bird’s Beak: New Insights from Dinosaur Incubation Periods. Biology Letters. 14 (5): 1–5. Ricklefs, R. E. 2010. Life-History Connections to Rates of Aging in Terrestrial Vertebrates. PNAS. 107 (22): 10,314–10,319. Guliuzza, R. J. 2023. Continuous Environmental Tracking: An Engineering-Based Model of Adaptation. Acts & Facts. 52 (6): 22–23.
Stage image: The famous bird Archaeopteryx had teeth Stage image credit: James L. Amos, CC BY 1.0, public domain
Cite this article: Jake Hebert, Ph.D. 2026. Did Fossil Birds Live Longer than Today's Birds?. Acts & Facts. 55 (1), 20.
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I'm glad anons like these articles, they do strengthen your faith.