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I'm so burnt out in the last year. I've been around since the reddit the Donald, the great awakening, Voat and here. I don't post much anymore and lately I can't even keep up with politics and latest reveals. I don't talk politics with family at all. Not for many many years and a pact we all made during covid not too. I am the only trump voter in my family but they were severely triggered into name calling in a group chat when I posted them a link to 30 studies on the efficacy of hcq against corona viruses.
They made the pact after 6 of them pig piled and swore at me. Mainly because after that I defended all my positions and they couldn't handle it. Anyway several times they have broken the pact...not me. I went down the pizza gate and Epstein rabbit holes long ago and can't even bring myself to read the latest dumps sadly. I suppose my input doesn't matter and I'm happy it's getting exposure finally. I just assume everyone is evil at this point. So onto what's bothering me today besides all of the above:
The last thing I asked my sister in chat was what her kids wanted for Christmas. So December and I got no reply. February 1 Sunday I wake up to a 7 am text from her.
"He is a pedophile.
He is arresting journalists.
Protestors at being killed.
They are turning the military on citizens.
Attempting to rig elections.
Declaring he won’t allow midterm elections.
Toying with the idea of declaring martial law.
Suing our own government for billions of dollars.
Pocketing the money off the Venezuelan Oil.
Taking away civil rights for women, and the gay community.
What am I missing that makes you think this is all ok?
I really need to understand, ..... because I’m having a very hard time separating the sister that I love from a person who is watching this all play out and cheering and supporting for it. I am having a really hard time with our pact to just sit quietly and not talk about it. I feel like I need you to help me understand your point of view."
So that's my loving sister. Deranged and unhinged. Super passive aggressive and NPC chipped. I haven't replied. Any takers on how I should besides "fuck off lunatic?" Or I don't sit at home cheering because he hasn't even reached Obama level deportations and I was hoping for 80 million?
Should I say nothing or emphasize how you don't make familial love dependent on politics? I've been way to easy on them in the past and sucked up several insults but this one takes the cake because.... Suddenly I am the whipping boy focus for all your ginned up fake media hate? There is definitely an ultimatum in there and it came out of left field. And apparently they can mind read what I do at home based on what the media tells her right wingers are doing I guess.
Wtf.
My heart is hurting. My sister has severe mental illness. The pedo accusations on trump are just next level insane. From past experience sticking up for him would be like hitting my head against a wall.
I wish I had a funny good meme reply but I don't. I'm burnt out. I'm not even sure she will feel shame for this text.
Ignore.
Maybe rebut everything she is claiming in some sort of notes or word app but don’t send it. Work on it over time with sources and links. Text it to her at a later date if she continues or it is thorough enough. She did the typical liberal attack by overwhelming you with lies. If you do answer, don’t argue with her. Just send her the truth with sources.
She wouldn’t have sent you the text if she wasn’t thinking of you.
Very true. Good idea.
They want you divided
But I'll say this. I have a cousin who I grew up seeing as a sister pretty much and we don't talk at all anymore. I don't have time for anyone still being 2d or living as an npc
I won't say I haven't thought about it.
I will pray for you, and I prayed for my sister last night. I'm asking God for help with my armour against the devil and patience to do better than my sister. I need to dig deep to find some grace this time and ignore the devil in my ear telling me to just put her in her place the way she is trying to do to me.
I'm glad i put this out into the nether because it definitely feels lonely here in a liberal state even with a husband who's eyes see the same as mine. Nothing really ever replaces family or the void they can leave even when they do it willfully to hurt.
I'll pray for your kids in need too. Hopefully they can clean up. Easier said than done, I know. It took my mom ten years in and out of drugs and alcohol.
I would just reply simply to her query:
Absurd claim. He never went to Epstein Isle. Banned Epstein from his properties. Cooperated with law enforcement to arrest Epstein the first time. Actually arrested Epstein the second time.
Cops arrest people breaking the law, not Trump.
Real protestors hold signs, and protest, and have no rights whatsoever to physically interfere or threaten law enforcement personnel. Not Trumps fault those people did something stupid and threatening, and got themselves shot.
If citizens are rioting, military force is legal.
Absurd claim with zero proof or evidence.
See #5.
Martial law is not declared. If rioting becomes extreme, then martial law is legal- don't do riots.
Civil court matter. Let the courts decide if the govt. is in the wrong or not.
Venezuelan oil money is not going into Trump's "pockets." Venezuelan oil is made with stolen American Oil company rigs and assets.
Nobody has lost any rights. Adults are free to be as gay, or multisexual as they desire.
And I would just leave it at that. I am not suggesting you do that, but without knowing your family, I'm pretty sure that's how I would respond to an inflammatory text like the one you got.
I think she's looking for a way to never have to see me again. That's my feeling about it. Almost a way of doing her part for the resistance maybe? I wonder if the actuvists are telling them to ditch all maga friends and family. It wouldn't surprise me
She won't believe any of the above to be true. That claptrap from the Epstein dumps this week from the tips to FBI about girls being raped by trump....after seeing that she will never believe they weren't credible even if she saw that paragraph. Her rant seemed kind of self righteous about it.
It's so odd....I tried to talk to them about pizza gate and Epstein in 2015-2017. They thought I was a nut...and now it's like they think I know shit all about it because of what blue sky and other media is feeding them. We aren't going to win this war unless biased media is gone
Your point by point is well done and succinct but she doesn't really want to hear it, I think she wants me to be triggered into fighting with her so she can play the bleeding heart good guy or something. I mean looking at her rant sets me up to be the most evil person responsible with my one vote for all the horror she sees around her
I essentially lost my sister last year, even though she isn't a shitlib. She still won't admit that if she'd had her way and Ted Cruz got the nomination in 2016, we'd still have Empress Hillary today, assuming there'd be many of us left by now. Perhaps it'll take some normalfag like Bongino or Louder with Crowder to say that Pizzagate is real before she accepts this, but she would still not apologize to me for doubting it. It doesn't matter how often Trump retrweets Q stuff; she'll still insist that Trump is an idiot who is only playing gullible people. Going beyond that, between her and her lunatic, toothless doofus husband yelling at me because I'd rather play '80s arcade games than modern-day, money pit online computer games that require expensive computer hardware (seriously... I'm not making this up), she's just not worth engaging with. She's become too toxic, calling me "immature" while her deadbeat husband wouldn't get a job to support her if his life depended on it. It's easier for me though, since I live in Japan and am removed from their vitriol.
The advice I was given by many friends, including ThisIsHowItStarts on here, is that if it comes to the point where you have to refuse to engage with toxic family members and just ignore them, do not feel bad. Of course you want to believe that your sister could perhaps listen to reason instead of tilting at windmills like this, but it's her intolerance that is interfering with your family relationship, not you. It's easier to deceive someone than to convince him that he's been deceived, as the saying goes.
Your last line is so true. I'm sorry your conservative sister hates trump. I don't tell people about q. I learned that lesson when I told my mom Hillary would be arrested. Rofl. That was a funny month. I stay away from the predictions and show only bread trails in an area of interest to the person I'm talking too
I so identify with your sentiment, exhaustion and sorrow......am just a little further along on the journey as my blackballing from family and friends began in 2016. Since then my armor has grown thicker (perhaps last 2 years). It is easier to not take the slings and arrows personally, although I am not nearly 100% adept yet.
Perhaps responding with your original question - what did your children want for Christmas, followed with "please provide factual evidence for each of your other claims" would not only jolt her to the original emotion but send her down her own rabbit hole.
Praying the Lord's mighty strength over you. There is a reason we have been told to put on the armor of God. This fight is not for the feeble fren.
Oh I've been putting on the armour but I had thought I'd skipped out on losing my family by all of us agreeing not to talk about politics. And now it feels like it's finally here for me.
Thank you for the prayer and advice. My husband's only advice is to mock her with a meme but that will just enrage the unhinged. We don't need another tragedy though she's doing her best to create one out of thin air.